Civic 97 --- "Boiling" sound from the engine --- Please, advise!

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Agent Smith, Sep 22, 2003.

  1. Agent Smith

    Agent Smith Guest

    Hi everyone,


    I'm hearing a strange "boiling" (even a little "hissing") sound from
    the engine *only* when I accelerate. I hear it much more distinctly in
    low gears. At first I though something in the AC system was causing
    it, but even with the AC completely off I hear it distinctly.

    Is this a problem with one of the belts? After a "visual inspection"
    of the timing belt it looks very good---no cracks, no excessive wear,
    the "play" is within limits (according to my Haynes manual).

    Car info: Civic 97, automatic transmission, 60K. All hoses under the
    hood are in perfect shape. There are no leaks of any kind. All fluids
    are in norm.

    Any insight will be much appreciated!
     
    Agent Smith, Sep 22, 2003
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    Smith,
    I drove a '95 Odyssey with a cracked exhaust manifold the other day...
    Whey I punched it, it made a bizarre WWoooWWW from under the hood. The
    other give-away symptom was smelling exhaust fumes under the hood right
    away upon startup.

    'Curly'

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    'Curly Q. Links', Sep 22, 2003
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    Smith,
    I drove a '95 Odyssey with a cracked exhaust manifold the other day...
    Whey I punched it, it made a bizarre WWoooWWW from under the hood. The
    other give-away symptom was smelling exhaust fumes under the hood right
    away upon startup.

    'Curly'

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    'Curly Q. Links', Sep 22, 2003
    #3
  4. It makes that sound when the ignition timing is a teensy bit too
    advanced. The advance isn't bad enough for knock but it sounds like a
    pan of water on a hot burner just at the point where tiny steam bubbles
    are forming and collapsing. Get the knock sensor checked if it has one,
    otherwise retard the timing just a hair.
     
    Kevin McMurtrie, Sep 22, 2003
    #4
  5. It makes that sound when the ignition timing is a teensy bit too
    advanced. The advance isn't bad enough for knock but it sounds like a
    pan of water on a hot burner just at the point where tiny steam bubbles
    are forming and collapsing. Get the knock sensor checked if it has one,
    otherwise retard the timing just a hair.
     
    Kevin McMurtrie, Sep 22, 2003
    #5
  6. Agent Smith

    Agent Smith Guest

    Kevin, thanks for the excellent advice! As a continuation of this
    saga, I went to see my Honda mechanic and---as it always
    happens---there was NO "boiling" coming from beneath the hood!! He
    drove my car around the block (and, boy, did he drive it!) but
    couldn't hear it! I can swear I was was hearing it all the way to the
    JFK airport yesterday! It's kind of quiet, but discernable. I'm
    totally puzzled now---if your timing is off, it's off (or am I wrong?)

    I'm ready to believe that performance of my gets affected by the
    weather. :) Along these lines, CAN it be related to weather? Could it
    be something in the cooling system? Not that it's a dry desert here,
    in NY, but it was much warmer yesterday than it is today. I cheched
    the pressure cap and it was allright. When you accelerate, the coolant
    flow should be increasing, right? Is this what I'm hearing? The
    temperature gauge stays at approximetaly 1/3 all the time, so looks
    like there's no overheating, and the coolant level is fine, but
    still....

    Oh, also, just recently I replaced the spark plugs with NGK (the ones
    recommended for my model). The old ones were nice and "clean" which
    indicated that there was no detonation, oil spilling, grease, or
    anything. If timing was off, I guess I would've noticed something on
    the plugs.
     
    Agent Smith, Sep 22, 2003
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  7. Agent Smith

    Agent Smith Guest

    Kevin, thanks for the excellent advice! As a continuation of this
    saga, I went to see my Honda mechanic and---as it always
    happens---there was NO "boiling" coming from beneath the hood!! He
    drove my car around the block (and, boy, did he drive it!) but
    couldn't hear it! I can swear I was was hearing it all the way to the
    JFK airport yesterday! It's kind of quiet, but discernable. I'm
    totally puzzled now---if your timing is off, it's off (or am I wrong?)

    I'm ready to believe that performance of my gets affected by the
    weather. :) Along these lines, CAN it be related to weather? Could it
    be something in the cooling system? Not that it's a dry desert here,
    in NY, but it was much warmer yesterday than it is today. I cheched
    the pressure cap and it was allright. When you accelerate, the coolant
    flow should be increasing, right? Is this what I'm hearing? The
    temperature gauge stays at approximetaly 1/3 all the time, so looks
    like there's no overheating, and the coolant level is fine, but
    still....

    Oh, also, just recently I replaced the spark plugs with NGK (the ones
    recommended for my model). The old ones were nice and "clean" which
    indicated that there was no detonation, oil spilling, grease, or
    anything. If timing was off, I guess I would've noticed something on
    the plugs.
     
    Agent Smith, Sep 22, 2003
    #7
  8. The plugs and weather can make a difference. Adjusting the timing just
    one degree would probably put it solidly into buzzing or silence.

    I adjusted the timing by ear after I bought my car because it was badly
    off (18 MPG) and the corrupt dealership I bought it from didn't want to
    look at it. I've had to retard it slightly a couple of times to
    compensate for carbon build-up. My car, a 97 HX, doesn't have a knock
    sensor.
     
    Kevin McMurtrie, Sep 23, 2003
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  9. The plugs and weather can make a difference. Adjusting the timing just
    one degree would probably put it solidly into buzzing or silence.

    I adjusted the timing by ear after I bought my car because it was badly
    off (18 MPG) and the corrupt dealership I bought it from didn't want to
    look at it. I've had to retard it slightly a couple of times to
    compensate for carbon build-up. My car, a 97 HX, doesn't have a knock
    sensor.
     
    Kevin McMurtrie, Sep 23, 2003
    #9
  10. Agent Smith

    redeyedevil Guest

    Why didn't you use a timing light? Wouldn't that have been more accurate?
    Just wondering.
     
    redeyedevil, Sep 24, 2003
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  11. Agent Smith

    redeyedevil Guest

    Why didn't you use a timing light? Wouldn't that have been more accurate?
    Just wondering.
     
    redeyedevil, Sep 24, 2003
    #11
  12. Accurate timing lights cost a good amount of money and I was dead broke
    at the time.

    Adjusting the timing by ear isn't to hard. You start out with slightly
    retarded timing, advance it a tiny bit each week until the engine buzzes
    occasionally, then retard it until the engine runs quietly.
     
    Kevin McMurtrie, Sep 25, 2003
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  13. Accurate timing lights cost a good amount of money and I was dead broke
    at the time.

    Adjusting the timing by ear isn't to hard. You start out with slightly
    retarded timing, advance it a tiny bit each week until the engine buzzes
    occasionally, then retard it until the engine runs quietly.
     
    Kevin McMurtrie, Sep 25, 2003
    #13
  14. Agent Smith

    Ez_Cruiser Guest

    it could be your torque converter carching up with the engine.... or it
    could be air whistling, coming in the throttle body... check it out!
     
    Ez_Cruiser, Oct 1, 2003
    #14
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