Car Alarm install for 94 Accord

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Al, Dec 31, 2004.

  1. Al

    Al Guest

    Hi,

    Does anyone know where I can get information on installing a car alarm for
    my '94 accord? I got one of those Pro Guard System 3 alarms, and i have alot
    of experience with electronics and wiring, but never with cars. I found some
    stuff on the different relays etc. at '12Volt' but i don't know what areas
    of the car to remove, fit,...

    any advise will be helpful.
    al.
     
    Al, Dec 31, 2004
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  2. Al

    R. P. Guest

    Sounds like an overkill for a 10 year old car.

    R. P.
     
    R. P., Jan 1, 2005
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  3. I don't know about other areas, but in the Phoenix area '90s Hondas are
    prime targets for theft. The cars are stripped for parts, which total many
    times the market value of the intact car. Newer cars aren't as attractive
    since the black market for parts is relatively low.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jan 1, 2005
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  4. Al

    Al Guest

    it's the same in my area. hondas are robbed quite abit...and i have a good
    stereo system which i would hate to lose

    anyway, anybody have an idea about the install?
    thx.
    and happy new year to all
     
    Al, Jan 1, 2005
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  5. Al

    Randolph Guest


    I, for one, think that old cars need new gadgets. I once installed a
    keyless entry system in a '96 Accord. The '96 is the same generation as
    your '94, and an alarm system has about the same connections as the
    keyless remote I installed.

    You will need some sort of wiring documentation for the car. You can
    find what looks like a factory service manual at
    http://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/CE1_CE2-94.zip. This manual is for
    the coupe, if you have the sedan there may be some minor discrepancies.
    I remember looking at ht Haynes manual at the library before doing the
    install. It did not have all the information I needed, but the Mitchell
    guide did. I was not aware of the above referenced web site at the time.

    You can find the installation instructions for the factory security
    system at
    http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/instal/aii/pages/accord/1995/16659_04.html
    This is good reading, as it has instructions on removing panels and
    accessing wires etc. that you need even with an after-market system.

    A convenient place to put the alarm unit us under the driver's side of
    the dash. Remove the lower dash cover to get access, it is held in place
    by a screw(s) and clips. I seem to remember having to remove the coin
    pocket to reveal one of the screws. Once you get the lower dash cover
    off, you will see a metal piece going across, this is the knee bolster.
    Remove it by taking out one bolt in each end. I had a mishap when
    removing the bolt on the right, it slipped out of my fingers and fell
    into the console. Finding it was a PITA.

    Some alarm manufacturers say not to mount the unit rigidly to the
    chassis, as you get more consistent performance from the shock sensor if
    the mounting is more flexible. I used nylon wire ties to tie the unit to
    one of the big wire bundles under the dash. Pretty much all the wires
    you need to tap into are available under the dash.

    The fuse box has 4 options connectors that are convenient for getting
    constant power to the alarm as well as to hook up the parking lights
    flash wire. See page 23-34, or page 1054 of the .pdf file referenced
    above. Options connector "D" has battery voltage at all times. It is
    fused with a 50A fuse under the hood only, so you need to add another
    smaller fuse in line with your wiring. Must alarm systems already have a
    fuse in the wiring harness for this purpose.

    Options connector "C" is the parking lights connector. This connector
    will have battery voltage when the light switch is in "park" or "on".
    Most alarm systems have a wire that puts out battery voltage to flash
    the parking lights, this wire should be connected to options connector
    "C".

    The alarm also needs an ignition sense signal. Options connector "B" is
    ignition switched, BUT it is live only with the key in "RUN", not in
    "START". This means that if your alarm has a starter cut relay, you can
    NOT use option connector "B" for ignition sense. With a starter cut
    relay you need IG1. See page 23-40 (.pdf page 1060) for wires connected
    to IG1. Seems to me the YEL wire to gauge assembly, backup lights etc.
    would be a good candidate.

    Virtually all alarm systems tie in with the doors witches (the ones that
    turn on the dome light). In the '94 Accord, each switch is diode
    isolated from the other. If you tie into one of them, only that door
    will trip the alarm. The wire you need to tie into is the BLK/WHT wire
    that goes from the dome light to the safety indicator in the dash. Tying
    into this wire will ensure that opening any door will trip the alarm.

    If your alarm has its own siren, follow the instructions that came with
    the alarm. If the alarm uses the car horn, then you need to tie in to
    the coil side of the horn relay. That would be the light GRN / BLU wire
    on page 23-234 (1254 of the .pdf). I don't remember exactly where I
    found this wire, but it was not hard to find under the dash.

    And for the icing on the cake, if you car has power door locks, you can
    easily tie these into an alarm system to get keyless entry (unless you
    already have it). The wiring is already there (at least it was on the
    '96 I worked on). There are a total of 3 wires involved, two of them
    connect directly to the alarm's lock / unlock outputs, the third can be
    ignored unless you want to get really fancy. The third wire is used if
    your alarm system has the "priority unlock" feature, i.e. the first
    press on the unlock button unlocks only the driver's door, the second
    press unlocks the remaining doors. This requires the installation of a
    relay inside the driver's door. I can't remember any wire colors etc.
    for this.
     
    Randolph, Jan 3, 2005
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  6. Al

    Al Guest

    wow,

    thanks so much, Randolph.

    This will definitely help alot.
     
    Al, Jan 3, 2005
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  7. Al

    John Roche Guest

    I'm in the same boat as I have a very clean 95 Accord and live in metro area
    and car lives on the street. Not sure I'm up to task of doing it myself. Any
    idea what it would cost to get an alarm installed. I've no experience in
    this area. Also any web sites as to alarm reviews and such?


    john
     
    John Roche, Jan 15, 2005
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