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Best mileage car other than hybrid?
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What Honda model has the best gas mileage OTHER than the hybrid?
Why don't you go to honda's website and figure it out for yourself?
Look at honda's smallest car, the civic, and it's smallest engine. Even you should be able to figure it out.
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What Honda model has the best gas mileage OTHER than the hybrid?
The new turdo diesel accord that they are shipping in Europe since January of this year.
Lynn
The new turdo diesel accord that they are shipping in Europe since January of this year.
Lynn
The new turdo diesel accord that they are shipping in Europe since
Wow!
I didn't even know Honda had any diesel models!
Will the above model ever come to the US?
January of this year.
Wow!
I didn't even know Honda had any diesel models!
Will the above model ever come to the US?
Lynn McGuire
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Wow!
Fall 2004 - Honda Accord Hybrid with V6
http://www.edmunds.com/future/2004/honda/accord/100377588/preview.html?tid=edmunds.f.mmindex.content.num1.0.honda*
Nothing about the Accord turbo diesel for USA:
http://www.carkeys.co.uk/launches/honda/2501.asp
"Even now, Honda Japan and Honda America want nothing to do with them, but there's a different commercial imperative in the UK and European markets."
WOW - they got 52 mpg on the UK test cycle ! ! !
Lynn
I didn't even know Honda had any diesel models!
Will the above model ever come to the US?
Fall 2004 - Honda Accord Hybrid with V6
http://www.edmunds.com/future/2004/honda/accord/100377588/preview.html?tid=edmunds.f.mmindex.content.num1.0.honda*
Nothing about the Accord turbo diesel for USA:
http://www.carkeys.co.uk/launches/honda/2501.asp
"Even now, Honda Japan and Honda America want nothing to do with them, but there's a different commercial imperative in the UK and European markets."
WOW - they got 52 mpg on the UK test cycle ! ! !
Lynn
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http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/gasmileage/ has a nice summary.
Stinkin' Honda increased the Honda Civic's engine size from a minimum of 1.5 liter to a minimum of 1.7 liter over the last decade or so. The gas mileage is correspondingly not as good as it could be, but the Civic is still probably the best of all the 2004 non-hybrid Hondas.
Go Toyota Echo.
Caroline
1991 Civic LX, 1.5 liter, manual transmission, 40+ mpg suburban driving
Stinkin' Honda increased the Honda Civic's engine size from a minimum of 1.5 liter to a minimum of 1.7 liter over the last decade or so. The gas mileage is correspondingly not as good as it could be, but the Civic is still probably the best of all the 2004 non-hybrid Hondas.
Go Toyota Echo.
Caroline
1991 Civic LX, 1.5 liter, manual transmission, 40+ mpg suburban driving
WOW - they got 52 mpg on the UK test cycle ! ! !
Lynn
GB or US gallons?
52 miles / GB gallon = 43.4 miles / US gallon.
Fall 2004 - Honda Accord Hybrid with V6
Hmm....Im getting conflicting info on the gas mileage of hybrids. Some say they aren't living up to their claimed high mileage. True?
Interesting!! Im curious..... why are the japanese so against diesel? And why is Europe so FOR them?
http://www.edmunds.com/future/2004/honda/accord/100377588/preview.html?tid=edmunds.f.mmindex.content.num1.0.honda*
Hmm....Im getting conflicting info on the gas mileage of hybrids. Some say they aren't living up to their claimed high mileage. True?
Nothing about the Accord turbo diesel for USA:
http://www.carkeys.co.uk/launches/honda/2501.asp
"Even now, Honda Japan and Honda America want nothing to do with them, but there's a different commercial imperative in the UK and European markets."
Interesting!! Im curious..... why are the japanese so against diesel? And why is Europe so FOR them?
Hmm....Im getting conflicting info on the gas mileage of hybrids. Some say they aren't living up to their claimed high mileage. True?
2003 Civic Hybrid CVT automatic. San Jose, CA to Benicia, CA. 60mph cruise control, 59.0 miles, 59.0 mpg. 70mph cruise control, 59.0 miles, 52.0 mpg. http://www.rahul.net/dold/clarence/Honda_Mileage.htm
Interesting!! Im curious..... why are the japanese so against diesel? And why is Europe so FOR them?
In the US, the common diesel fuel is high in sulfur, which is different from Europe. I don't know which Japan has. In the US, areas that have high diesel usage tend to have noticeable soot in the air, and deposited on almost every flat surface, like the window ledges in downtown areas where there are lots of diesel powered buses and delivery trucks doing a lot of idling.
At one time it was thought that "particulate matter" was okay, because it doesn't increase photo-chemical smog, so you can't see it in the air. but it does have very fine airborne particles that are now believed to gain deep entry into the lungs and are bad for you.
Diesel is currently at $2.33 a gallon, regular gas at $2.19, so that would hurt market entry today as well.
2003 Civic Hybrid CVT automatic. San Jose, CA to Benicia, CA.
Interesting!
So in fact you ARE getting great gas mileage then. Correct?
60mph cruise control, 59.0 miles, 59.0 mpg.
70mph cruise control, 59.0 miles, 52.0 mpg.
http://www.rahul.net/dold/clarence/Honda_Mileage.htm
Interesting!
So in fact you ARE getting great gas mileage then. Correct?
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Diesel is currently at $2.33 a gallon, regular gas at $2.19, so that would
Diesel in Europe is taxed less than gasoline. When I was in Italy a couple of week ago, we figured that regular gasoline was $5/gal and that diesel was $4/gal. Just about every other car was a diesel.
Lynn
hurt market entry today as well.
Diesel in Europe is taxed less than gasoline. When I was in Italy a couple of week ago, we figured that regular gasoline was $5/gal and that diesel was $4/gal. Just about every other car was a diesel.
Lynn
So in fact you ARE getting great gas mileage then. Correct?
When I whine about my mileage dropping below 45 my wife has no sympathy.
We want to be the first kids on the block with a Ford Escape Hybrid so we can dump the 14mpg Dodge Durango.
I am very pleased with my Civic Hybrid. The mileage is a big plus, but I like the car beyond just the mileage. It is smooth and quiet. The CVT and Hybrid work so well that it is a far different car than the gas-only Civic.
If the Pilot was available in a Hybrid, we would buy one. We are putting $200 per month worth of gasoline into the Dodge. If we could spend $140 of that toward a new vehicle, and $70 toward gas, that would be a great thing. She needs more interior volume than the Civic provides. I'm trying to convince her that the Escape is big enough. She's not convinced, and will probably get a small enclosed trailer to go with it.
When I whine about my mileage dropping below 45 my wife has no sympathy.
We want to be the first kids on the block with a Ford Escape Hybrid so we can dump the 14mpg Dodge Durango.
I am very pleased with my Civic Hybrid. The mileage is a big plus, but I like the car beyond just the mileage. It is smooth and quiet. The CVT and Hybrid work so well that it is a far different car than the gas-only Civic.
And it like the civic will never save enough in fuel costs to repay the extra initial expense.If the Pilot was available in a Hybrid, we would buy one.
The CVT and
Good point!
Thanks
Hybrid work so well that it is a far different car than the gas-only Civic.
Good point!
Thanks
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When I whine about my mileage dropping below 45 my wife has no sympathy.
We want to be the first kids on the block with a Ford Escape Hybrid so we can dump the 14mpg Dodge Durango.
I am very pleased with my Civic Hybrid. The mileage is a big plus, but I like the car beyond just the mileage. It is smooth and quiet. The CVT and Hybrid work so well that it is a far different car than the gas-only Civic.
If the Pilot was available in a Hybrid, we would buy one.
Get one of the new Lexus Hybrids. It's the SUV to get, IMO, as 30mpg will really pay for itself fast. $100 a month towards gas that you save adds up fast.
TCS said:And it like the civic will never save enough in fuel costs to repay the extra initial expense.
That's the same troll line you toss out every time the Hybrid is mentioned. I have already recouped the difference in price. YMMV.
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I like what you've done here. I actually started a spreadsheet similar to yours to track the gallons, mileage, and cost of gas on my Accord. I always said I'd do something like that when I bought brand new car.2003 Civic Hybrid CVT automatic. San Jose, CA to Benicia, CA. 60mph cruise control, 59.0 miles, 59.0 mpg. 70mph cruise control, 59.0 miles, 52.0 mpg. http://www.rahul.net/dold/clarence/Honda_Mileage.htm
||In the US, the common diesel fuel is high in sulfur, which is different ||from Europe.
I think that's about to change. New regulations coming to reduce sulphur. Should open up the market for Euro-style high-efficiency diesels.
Texas Parts Guy
I think that's about to change. New regulations coming to reduce sulphur. Should open up the market for Euro-style high-efficiency diesels.
Texas Parts Guy
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Except the turbo diesel gets either zero or infinite gas mileage depending on how you look at it, since diesel isn't gasoline.
;P
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The Honda Civic HX Coupe has an EPA rating of 36/44.
It has a 1.7L VTEC engine designed especially for fuel efficiency. The engine is rated at 117 hp which is 10hp less then the EX model and equavilent to the 115hp form in the value package and LX models.
Prices are:
5 speed manual continuously variable automatic
without front side airbags $13,710 $14,710
with front side airebags $13,960 $14,960
Standard features include:
* power mirrors and door locks
* AM/FM/CD stereo with 4 speakers
* cruise control
* tachometer
This is a great commuter car. It is also $5k less then the hybrid. The only downside is that it is only available as a 2 door coupe.
Find out more here:
http://www.hondacars.com/models/model_overview.asp?ModelName=Civic+Coupe
It has a 1.7L VTEC engine designed especially for fuel efficiency. The engine is rated at 117 hp which is 10hp less then the EX model and equavilent to the 115hp form in the value package and LX models.
Prices are:
5 speed manual continuously variable automatic
without front side airbags $13,710 $14,710
with front side airebags $13,960 $14,960
Standard features include:
* power mirrors and door locks
* AM/FM/CD stereo with 4 speakers
* cruise control
* tachometer
This is a great commuter car. It is also $5k less then the hybrid. The only downside is that it is only available as a 2 door coupe.
Find out more here:
http://www.hondacars.com/models/model_overview.asp?ModelName=Civic+Coupe
