belt squeal

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by rynniki, Aug 22, 2004.

  1. rynniki

    rynniki Guest

    we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the clutch
    the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or
    wrong ?
     
    rynniki, Aug 22, 2004
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  2. rynniki

    motsco_ _ Guest


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    The clutch is at the opposite end of the engine from the clutch, and the
    engine spins the same speed whether the clutch is in or out, so it's
    more likely the throwout bearing is squeeking against the fork, or it's
    starting to sieze, and pushing the clutch in stops the noise.

    It can happen at any mileage. Ever had the clutch adjusted?

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Aug 22, 2004
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  3. rynniki

    rynniki Guest

    the clutch is brand new, it was replaced in february.
     
    rynniki, Aug 22, 2004
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  4. rynniki

    Jason Guest

    It's probably one of the belts. I don't know whether they still make it
    but it was once possible to buy some sort of chemical that could be
    sprayed on belts to keep them from slipping. It was a sticky substance. If
    they no longer make belt spray, the only solution is to adjust the
    alternator or whatever else is the source of the problem. Some mechanics
    have a special tool that can be used to make belts really tight.
     
    Jason, Aug 23, 2004
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  5. rynniki

    Jeff Smith Guest

    My 95 civic (62K miles) does the same thing with the clutch. if you push
    the pedal in enough to take up the play in the pedal but not engage the
    clutch itself - the noise will stop. (by the way the noise is more like a
    chirping of sorts) I know for a fact this is the throwout bearing you
    shouldn't necessarily replace the throwout bearing by itself because it is a
    50 buck part on a 300+ dollar job due to labor. this bearing should always
    be replaced when the clutch is replaced. if your clutch starts slipping
    then you should replace everything. that's what im waiting for.


    - Jeff
     
    Jeff Smith, Aug 23, 2004
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  6. rynniki

    rynniki Guest

    the clutch was replaced in february this year,so should i be concerned or
    can it wait a couple of months,the chirping comes and goes.also is it ok
    to drive it around and all.
     
    rynniki, Aug 23, 2004
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    Jason Guest

    If you recently replaced the clutch and the source of the squeal is from
    the clutch, an adjustment of the clutch should solve the problem. I
    mentioned in my last post that it could be from a lose belt--I should have
    mentioned that you can do an easy test to see if a lose belt is the source
    of the problem. You should open the hood.
    One person should stand next to the car and watch and listen to the belts.
    The other person should start the car. If the squeal is coming from the
    belts, the person standing next to the car should hear it and even be able
    identify which belt is slipping.
     
    Jason, Aug 23, 2004
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  8. rynniki

    Jeff Smith Guest

    well i know my chirping is from the throwout bearing and i still drive it
    120 miles a day to work and back. as long as you clutch is still engaging
    ok you are good to go aside from the anoying sound. dont take my word for
    this as i am not a mechanic in any way - this is just what i have been told.
     
    Jeff Smith, Aug 24, 2004
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  9. rynniki

    Jason Guest

    I agree with you and the other poster--the most likely source is the
    clutch. If you did not install the new clutch, take it back and tell the
    person that installed it that he needs to adjust it.
     
    Jason, Aug 24, 2004
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  10. rynniki

    rynniki Guest

    thanks guys so much for helping me out. i am wondering why he didnt fix the
    throw out bearing when he replaced the clutch. unless he did and like you
    said it just needs to be adjusted.
     
    rynniki, Aug 24, 2004
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  11. rynniki

    Jason Guest

    When you take it back, you can ask him whether or not he fixed the throw
    out bearing. It's hard to second guess mechanics. I suppose that it is
    possible that he took a close look at the throw out bearing and determined
    that it did not need to be fixed or replaced. Mechanics and doctors can
    make mistakes. It happens on a regular basis. I once read about a doctor
    that accidently reversed the xray and ended up cutting off the wrong leg.
     
    Jason, Aug 24, 2004
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  12. rynniki

    motsco_ _ Guest

    =================

    Bearing may be new, but the part where the fork rubs on the bearing
    needs to be greased, and maybe he didn't know that?
    Here's a quote from a (Chiltons) CRV manual...

    ||||||| On re-assembly, apply a high temperature grease to the ears of
    the release fork where it contacts the release bearing, and to the inner
    surface of the release bearing and its guide tube. |||||||

    Also, shortly after you replace a clutch is the time it should be
    rechecked because it wears a lot until it gets 'seated comfortably'.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Aug 24, 2004
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    Jeff Smith Guest

    it could be the fork but when my fork squeaks its only when i am pushing the
    pedal all the way in (to the floor) and it makes a god aweful sound like a
    dieing cat. the way i fixed it was to get some white lithium grease (kind
    in a can with a straw like wd-40) and gently sprayed it on the forks fingers
    making sure not to get the clutch disk. this can be done by sliding back
    the fork boot on the front of the engine right behind the radiator. once
    again i make no guarentees on my suggestions and it may not work for your
    car. also spraying any type of grease in, near, around your clutch is
    highly not reccomended.
     
    Jeff Smith, Aug 25, 2004
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    Jason Guest

    Curly,
    This is good advice. However, don't you think that they mechanic that
    messed up the job should be the person that repairs the problem for free?
     
    Jason, Aug 26, 2004
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