Anyone used the new Mobil-1 ATF instead of Z1?

Mobil-1 has a new fully synthetic formulation of ATF (not the syn-
blend multi-vehicle formula).

Going through the specs during recent discussions on ATF I noticed
that Mobil-1's new fully-syn ATF can be in Honda Z1 applications. So
instead of Dexron III in an emergency or even the Z1, people now have
an option in using Mobil-1.

Has anyone used this new Mobil-1 fully synthetic formulation in
Hondas?


http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_1_Synthetic_ATF.aspx

Also suitable for use in vehicles that specify the following fluid
requirements:

* Audi G 052 025-A2, G 052 162-A1
* BMW LA2634
* Esso LT 71141
* ETL-7045E, ETL-8072B, N402
* Ford* MERCON*, MERCON V, MERCON LV
* All 2005 and earlier GM vehicles**
* Honda ATF-Z1*
* Hyundai SP-II, SP-III
* Idemitsu K17
* JWS 3309
* Kia SP-II, SP-III
* MAN 339F, V1, V2, Z1, Z2, Z3
* Mazda ATF-III, ATF-MV
* Mercedes-Benz 236.1, 236.2, 236.5, 236.6, 236.7, 236.9
* Mitsubishi Diamond SP-II, SP-III
* Nissan Matic-D, Matic-J, Matic-K
* Subaru ATF
* Toyota T-III, T-IV
* Voith 55.6335.XX (G607, G1363)
* Volvo 97340
* ZF TE-ML 03D, 04D, 09, 14A, 14B, 16L, 17C

* Not recommend for CVT applications, Mercon® SP, Ford Type F

 

well technically, dexron III meets or exceeds the spec for z1, but it
makes a honda shift like you just got rear ended. [trust me on that.]

i'm willing to be convinced so will welcome the experience of others,
but /i'm/ not going to be the first on this one! see above.

 

Haha, do you really need an ATF that cost twice as much as Honda Z1?

 

Yes, they have an option, but why would they want to do it?

 

That's probably why Honda allows its use only in emergency situations.
Just enough to get to a dealer.

Anyway, the new Mobil-1, also suitable for Toyota T-IV, which is
actually Mobil-3309, has additional friction modifiers that allow
additional slipping of the clutch (therefore less of a kick), that's
why a few owners say they prefer the firmer shift of the new Mobil-1
to prolong the life of the clutch.

But like you said, I'm not sure about how comfortable the shifts will
be with the new Mobil-1 Fully Syn ATF.

 

No, Mobil-1 ATF is reasonably priced at Walmart. Honda PS fluid is a
must, but not their lousy CCI-made brake fluid (Castrol GT Low
Moisture Activity is better).

So when I noticed the new application Mobil-1 in place of Honda ATF-Z1
(or Toyota T-IV, not to mention the ubiquitous Dexron II/III), I like
to know what other people's experiences are with this new formulation
(in this case, in Hondas).

My guess is the Z1 is either a blend or fully-syn. Probably more of a
blend, if at all. I certainly hope it's not dino given the cost. The
expensive Mobil-3309 used in Toyotas for instance seems to be
completely dino:

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_ATF_3309.aspx

 

BTW - Firmer shifts vs the Z1, but less of a kick vs regular Dexron
III.