Any Honda Insight owners here?

Discussion in 'Insight' started by Rick, Dec 8, 2006.

  1. Rick

    Rick Guest

    Been thinking about buying an Insight. I drive about 300 miles a day and
    would sure love to get 60mpg out of a car. Will these actually do that? I'd
    like to get some opinions and experiences from past and existing owners of
    these hybrids. I want to hear the good, bad and ugly.

    Thanks,
    Rick
     
    Rick, Dec 8, 2006
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  2. I'm a Toyota hybrid owner, but I can provide some light.

    Yes, they can actually give 60 mpg or more. What you should be prepared for
    is that the efficiency edge that allows such numbers is easily compromised.
    Short trips and cold weather - especially in combination - really take their
    toll (maybe less in the Honda IMA system as opposed to the Toyota THS or SHS
    system) and can knock the numbers down 30%. In the same way, higher freeway
    speeds will cost you.

    The good news is that 30% less than 60 mpg is a very respectable 40+ mpg. My
    Toyota normally delivers 46 - 50 mpg around town in good weather, but now
    that the temperatures are below freezing and the engine isn't warming up
    until I get to work 3 miles away it is not giving quite 40 mpg. When I
    consider any other car suffers the same sort of degradation and that very
    few could even offer 40 mpg real-world in such service it doesn't bother me.
    Most important is that I no longer pay much attention to gas cost; it just
    isn't an important part of my budget. I'm spending about a third what I was
    when I was driving the Volvo.

    At 300 miles per day you should reasonably expect 50 mpg or better. Pay
    close attention to tire inflation, though.

    More specific to the Insight: Insight drivers have written it is responsive
    and fun to drive, but at least one mentioned he parks as far from the crowd
    as possible to be merciful to the aluminum body.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 8, 2006
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  3. Get an older Corolla or Civic. Or CRX if you can find it.

    The Insight, like any hybrid, is designed for stop and go city driving.
    That's where the fuel efficiency comes in. Not on the road.

    Unless you're driving 300 miles/day in stop and go traffic?
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Dec 8, 2006
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  4. I had a 2000 Honda Accord, a 4 cylinder with manual trans, that got me
    35mpg in the summer (A/C on) going through the mountains.

    Frankly, I'm not impressed with 40mpg out of a fancy-shmancy hybrid.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Dec 8, 2006
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  5. That describes the 60 mile round trip from here to Sedona and back - 2500 ft
    elevation change, winding highway. The worst I've done on that is just under
    50 mpg (four passengers), and the best was just over 60 mpg. If I got only
    35 I would be looking to see what was so messed up... maybe parking brake
    dragging. What is really impressive is the in-town mileage, where I do most
    of my driving. Have you ever been anywhere near 50 mpg in-town - mostly 3
    mile trips - over a full tank?

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 8, 2006
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  6. The fuel efficiency on the highway comes from downsizing the engine
    (efficiency in an internal combustion engine improves with increasing
    manifold pressure). The Insight uses a 1 liter engine augmented by electrics
    for responsiveness. That improves highway efficiency to give the EPA rated
    65 mpg on the highway. The numbers are for comparison only, but that
    compares with the 2005 Civic 1.7L at 38 mpg. That can cut fuel costs 35%,
    and that is significant with that many miles per day.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 8, 2006
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  7. Rick

    Rick Guest

    That's what I'm figuring. With what I would save in fuel cost, I could
    almost make the car payment. Had at one time considered the VW diesel, but
    with the difference in cost between diesel and gas, almost 50 cents a gallon
    around here, I thought a hybrid might be something to think about. There's
    somebody that passes me in the morning on I44 with an Insight and that's
    what has gotten me to thinking about one of them and of course the fuel
    mileage too:) I'm a contract courier so all auto cost are on my
    responsibility, including gas. There's no way around it. I'm in the market
    for a new, well to me, vehicle. the one I had been driving was getting about
    30mpg and I could live with that since I didn't have a payment on it, but
    the trannie went out and the car just isn't worth putting a 1000 bucks in
    it. Besides the trannie, it was going to need some other odds and ends too.
    I've got my moneys worth out of the car, but I'm ready for something
    different anyway. Been driving my S10 pickup temporarily, but the fuel costs
    is killing me!!!!! I do appreciate all the input and info, thanks!!!!

    Rick
     
    Rick, Dec 8, 2006
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    TomP Guest

    Before you even consider an Insight, make sure you drive one, under all your
    normal conditions.
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    TomP, Dec 9, 2006
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