All the oil ran out of my new 2007 CR-V !!

Discussion in 'CR-V' started by Chuck Connell, Dec 12, 2006.

  1. I have a one-month old 07 CRV with about 900 miles. Last night I noticed
    the oil light blinking randomly. I checked the oil level as soon as I got
    home, just a couple miles later. It was down, so I added a quart. I did
    another short errand (5 miles), then checked the oil again. Still low, so I
    added another quart and parked it for the night. This morning I checked the
    stick and it showed nothing. So I added two more quarts, bringing the level
    up to full (2nd hole in the stick). I drove the car directly to the dealer
    this morning (about 5 miles) with no oil light coming on.

    I now realize that the oil has been running out for a week or more. There
    are oil spots where I park my car at work, and two large spots in my
    driveway. The oil level was down 4 quarts!

    Some questions...

    - Has anyone else had this problem?

    - What is the total oil capacity of this vehicle? I suspect it is just over
    4q, so my oil was VERY low.

    - Should I demand a new car from the dealer, since I drove it for some days
    this way? (Probably about 20-30 miles per day.)

    - Any other thoughts/insights?

    TIA,
    Chuck Connell
    http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page
     
    Chuck Connell, Dec 12, 2006
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  2. Chuck Connell

    Dano58 Guest

    Your owners manual could certainly tell you capacity of the sump.

    You didn't check the drain plug? That would be the most likely culprit
    in my mind. Not being real familiar with Hondas yet, generally, a
    flashing light is worse than a solid light. In my Audi, if I had a
    flashing oil light, I would immediately pul over and turn off the car,
    as that indicates a severe lack-of-oil condition (versus a solid light
    which would mean I may be down a quart). So you could have done some
    serious damage to the car. The dealer will probably fix the oil loss
    problem and leave it at that.

    Good luck.

    Dan D
    '07 Odyssey EX

    PS Just looked at my Oddy's manual, the light is actually an oil
    PRESSURE indicator, not an oil LEVEL indicator, and says that driving
    with it flashing or on can lead to severe engine damage. Again, this is
    in my Odyssey. DD
     
    Dano58, Dec 12, 2006
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  3. Chuck Connell

    Dano58 Guest

    Your owners manual could certainly tell you capacity of the sump.

    You didn't check the drain plug? That would be the most likely culprit
    in my mind. Not being real familiar with Hondas yet, generally, a
    flashing light is worse than a solid light. In my Audi, if I had a
    flashing oil light, I would immediately pul over and turn off the car,
    as that indicates a severe lack-of-oil condition (versus a solid light
    which would mean I may be down a quart). So you could have done some
    serious damage to the car. The dealer will probably fix the oil loss
    problem and leave it at that.

    Good luck.

    Dan D
    '07 Odyssey EX

    PS Just looked at my Oddy's manual, the light is actually an oil
    PRESSURE indicator, not an oil LEVEL indicator, and says that driving
    with it flashing or on can lead to severe engine damage. Again, this is
    in my Odyssey. DD
     
    Dano58, Dec 12, 2006
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  4. Chuck Connell

    E Meyer Guest

    The previous generation of the CR-V had problems with the oil filter gaskets
    stacking up and then blowing out, resulting in loss of oil & fires, but it
    happened after the first oil change. At 900 miles, I assume you have not
    changed the oil yet, so the likely culprits are loose drain plug, loose oil
    filter, or road damage to something under it.

    If at any point it actually ran dry, there is going to be engine damage.
    On a 1 month old car, unless you ran over something and put a gash in the
    oil pan, I would certainly try to make them replace it unless they can prove
    to you that no damage has been done.
     
    E Meyer, Dec 12, 2006
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  5. Chuck Connell

    E Meyer Guest

    The previous generation of the CR-V had problems with the oil filter gaskets
    stacking up and then blowing out, resulting in loss of oil & fires, but it
    happened after the first oil change. At 900 miles, I assume you have not
    changed the oil yet, so the likely culprits are loose drain plug, loose oil
    filter, or road damage to something under it.

    If at any point it actually ran dry, there is going to be engine damage.
    On a 1 month old car, unless you ran over something and put a gash in the
    oil pan, I would certainly try to make them replace it unless they can prove
    to you that no damage has been done.
     
    E Meyer, Dec 12, 2006
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  6. Just got off the phone with the service rep at the dealer (Herb Chambers in
    Burlington MA). The crank seal was blown. The oil was pumping onto the
    ground as the engine ran. He said "it looks like everything is OK inside
    the engine". I said there is no way to know that without putting the
    crankshaft and cylinder walls under a microscope. He more or less agreed.

    I said that I want a new car, and he agreed to escalate this to his
    manager.

    Chuck
     
    Chuck Connell, Dec 12, 2006
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  7. Just got off the phone with the service rep at the dealer (Herb Chambers in
    Burlington MA). The crank seal was blown. The oil was pumping onto the
    ground as the engine ran. He said "it looks like everything is OK inside
    the engine". I said there is no way to know that without putting the
    crankshaft and cylinder walls under a microscope. He more or less agreed.

    I said that I want a new car, and he agreed to escalate this to his
    manager.

    Chuck
     
    Chuck Connell, Dec 12, 2006
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    motsco_ Guest

    Chuck Connell wrote:
    ======================================================

    Hmmmm Your owner's manual says you should _shut it down_ if you ever see
    the oil light come on. You said you drove it 'a couple more miles'. I
    don't think you're in a position to demand anything.

    Hopefully it will be OK.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Dec 12, 2006
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  9. Chuck Connell

    motsco_ Guest

    Chuck Connell wrote:
    ======================================================

    Hmmmm Your owner's manual says you should _shut it down_ if you ever see
    the oil light come on. You said you drove it 'a couple more miles'. I
    don't think you're in a position to demand anything.

    Hopefully it will be OK.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Dec 12, 2006
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  10. When I say "drove it for some days this way", I meant that I drove it for
    some days without knowing there was an oil problem. As soon as I actually
    saw the oil light flicker, I continued home (about 2 miles) and immediately
    added a quart of oil before doing my next errand. The oil light went out.

    Chuck
     
    Chuck Connell, Dec 12, 2006
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  11. When I say "drove it for some days this way", I meant that I drove it for
    some days without knowing there was an oil problem. As soon as I actually
    saw the oil light flicker, I continued home (about 2 miles) and immediately
    added a quart of oil before doing my next errand. The oil light went out.

    Chuck
     
    Chuck Connell, Dec 12, 2006
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  12. Chuck Connell

    notbob Guest

    It should be ok. I did something similar (oil light on, few qts low)
    with my 4th gen hatchback Si at about 125K miles. It's now at 240K
    miles and still runs great. Besides, not a whole lot you can do about
    it now. :\

    nb
     
    notbob, Dec 12, 2006
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  13. Chuck Connell

    notbob Guest

    It should be ok. I did something similar (oil light on, few qts low)
    with my 4th gen hatchback Si at about 125K miles. It's now at 240K
    miles and still runs great. Besides, not a whole lot you can do about
    it now. :\

    nb
     
    notbob, Dec 12, 2006
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    MLD Guest

    If you can't fine evidence of an external leak--drain plug, filter etc, then
    a contact with Honda is mandatory. If they have any fear that there is an
    engine related problem they will go all out to find out what it is and will
    rectify your problem with minimal cost to you. As a absolute minimum you
    should have some diagnostic checks to determine if the engine has suffered
    some damage. The car is new--you don't an oil burner for the rest of it's
    life.
    MLD
     
    MLD, Dec 12, 2006
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  15. Chuck Connell

    MLD Guest

    If you can't fine evidence of an external leak--drain plug, filter etc, then
    a contact with Honda is mandatory. If they have any fear that there is an
    engine related problem they will go all out to find out what it is and will
    rectify your problem with minimal cost to you. As a absolute minimum you
    should have some diagnostic checks to determine if the engine has suffered
    some damage. The car is new--you don't an oil burner for the rest of it's
    life.
    MLD
     
    MLD, Dec 12, 2006
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  16. Chuck Connell

    MLD Guest

    Glad that the source of the problem has been identified---don't let them
    blow you off. Peruse with Honda for a new car. If that doesn't work be a
    nice guy and settle for a new engine. No luck, go for an engine teardown
    and have the rings, valve seals and whatever inspected/replaced. They put 4
    qts of oil in the car because that's what it needs--you ran with a lot
    less--hard to imagine you got away damage free and you don't want it to
    haunt you for the life of the car. I am in the same area and might buy from
    that dealer so would you post how this all ends?
    MLD
     
    MLD, Dec 12, 2006
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  17. Chuck Connell

    MLD Guest

    Glad that the source of the problem has been identified---don't let them
    blow you off. Peruse with Honda for a new car. If that doesn't work be a
    nice guy and settle for a new engine. No luck, go for an engine teardown
    and have the rings, valve seals and whatever inspected/replaced. They put 4
    qts of oil in the car because that's what it needs--you ran with a lot
    less--hard to imagine you got away damage free and you don't want it to
    haunt you for the life of the car. I am in the same area and might buy from
    that dealer so would you post how this all ends?
    MLD
     
    MLD, Dec 12, 2006
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  18. Chuck Connell

    MLD Guest

    Great comment! From where you sit you can tell that his engine is OK. He had
    a major defect, why should he take any chances as to the effect it had on
    his engine. You would be surprised as to what Honda will do to protect the
    reputatioin of their engines.
    MLD
    MLD
     
    MLD, Dec 12, 2006
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  19. Chuck Connell

    MLD Guest

    Great comment! From where you sit you can tell that his engine is OK. He had
    a major defect, why should he take any chances as to the effect it had on
    his engine. You would be surprised as to what Honda will do to protect the
    reputatioin of their engines.
    MLD
    MLD
     
    MLD, Dec 12, 2006
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  20. Chuck
     
    Chuck Connell, Dec 12, 2006
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