All New Honda Owners

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Sandlot, Dec 29, 2003.

  1. Sandlot

    Sandlot Guest

    If you have a problem with a 2003 or 2004, why post it here for a fix? Take
    it in for warranty repair. To post it here for people to say "take it in" is
    a waste of time for the rest of us.

    5 time Honda Owner
    Sandlot, Dec 29, 2003
  2. Personally I'll bend over backwards to stay away from the dealer entirely
    even for minor warranty work. As an example, why anybody would prefer the
    aggro involved in having a burned out bulb replaced by the dealer vs.
    replacing yourself is beyond me - I'd rather pay for the bulb and DIY.

    This newsgroup is about discussing Hondas in general, finding fixes is only
    part of the purpose - finding quirks, glitches etc. which are common among
    a group of owners is a useful exercise.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
    George Macdonald, Dec 29, 2003
  3. Sandlot

    Bob Guest

    If you think any of us have anymore experience that those Certified
    mechanics, your crazy. Yes there are many good mechanics out here. However,
    they have no machine to diagnose nor are they there to witness the failure.
    Any work you perform based on newsgroup will undoubtedly cancel your
    warranty. A new Honda EX is about 28k. Am I willing to take a chance on a
    yard mechanic, I don't think so.

    Bob, Dec 29, 2003
  4. Sandlot

    NetSock Guest

    I don't agree totally.

    If someone's horn quite working (for example), there is no harm in telling
    them to check the connector (at the horn) and the fuse. This is very typical
    advice one would receive here, and it would not "invalidate" the warranty if
    they were to take it upon thereself to fix.

    There are also some of us that have more experience than the "certified
    tech" that would end up working on our cars. Additionally, it is also
    typical to take a greater "pride" in workmanship, when you are working on
    your own car.

    And lastly, any repairs that are done by dealers, gets billed back to the
    factory. Wanna guess how they recoup those costs? That's right...higher car
    prices for all of us.

    Now don't get me wrong...any warranty work that is major, or that would
    effect the validity of a warranty, should be referred to the dealer, but I
    just don't agree with your "across the board" statement.

    Take care.

    '03 S2000
    '94 Accord

    It's just about going fast...that's all...
    NetSock, Dec 29, 2003
  5. Sandlot

    NetSock Guest

    Good point.

    I have also heard countless stories about scratches, damages, and thefts
    while their car was in the "custody" of the dealership.

    And you also might want to consider how many different people are driving
    your car...and how they are operating it...especially if you have a "high
    end" or performance car.

    I wonder what kind of "test drive" the 20 year old "certified technician"
    would give my S2000 after a tire balance... ;)

    Take care.

    '03 S2000
    '94 Accord

    It's just about going fast...that's all...
    NetSock, Dec 29, 2003

  6. ====================

    Why? Because that's what newsgroups are for. Experienced owners and
    potential owners still want / need to know what's coming in the newer

    Some new owners live 100 miles from their dealer. Some will ask for help
    from the broad knowledge base represented here, rather than spend an
    hour on the phone with a dealer that doesn't read (or understand) the
    service bulletins that arrive daily. Some folks can't get along without
    their car for a week while the dealer swaps the rear differential three
    times (CRV) before they find out what's really causing the problem. :-(

    Sure, the ones who haven't figured out what the owner's manual is their
    _friend_ should be shot at dawn, but they're here for _our_ entertainment.


    'Curly Q. Links', Dec 29, 2003
  7. Sandlot

    MikeHunt2 Guest

    Even an experienced technician can not properly evaluate a
    problem from afar. Without a qualified person with the proper
    equipment on the other end to do the actually work, one is merely
    making an educated guess. Why folks will try to save a
    comparably few dollars on the maintenance, on a vehicle that
    costs nearly 30K, is sort of foolish IMO. Take your vehicle to
    the guys that know it best at a dealership. You will be best
    served in the long run.

    mike hunt
    MikeHunt2, Dec 29, 2003
  8. Sandlot

    NetSock Guest

    Hey're back!

    Didn't miss ya much, but I am glad to see your back to your self serving
    agenda. :)

    How was the village over the holidays?

    Hope they didn't tie ya to a post and stone ya!

    Ahh...the wisdom returns...
    Wow! I see the holiday break has rested your brain cells!
    Yea...but your opinion isn't worth nothing here...sorry.
    This is nothing more than generalized statement, that hold no
    merit...nothing more.
    ....if you don't listen to Mikey. :)

    '03 S2000
    '94 Accord

    It's just about going fast...that's all...
    NetSock, Dec 29, 2003
  9. Sandlot

    Gus Guest

    Wow, where are you buying your Hondas? I paid $20,500 for my '03 EX sedan.
    Gus, Dec 29, 2003
  10. I do *not* need lessons in the abuses performed by "certified mechanics"
    and their bosses. If you want your precious EX to be the dealership gopher
    car for most of the day or just a joyrider for the unofficial top-speed
    tester at the dealership go ahead; if you want fasteners broken and parts
    which get in the way of the piece rate thrown away, go ahead. Meanwhile
    the rest of us will continue to DIY and have reliable transportation with
    only a few minutes and $$ inconvenience for such things as replacing a
    headlamp or marker bulb.

    As for the warranty cancellation - utter BS!

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
    George Macdonald, Dec 29, 2003
  11. Sandlot

    Bob Guest

    Yep, in CA we pay big buck for them. 20k for all leather EX with spoiler
    Bob, Dec 29, 2003
  12. Secondly lastly, I prefer to do repairs on my schedule, not my dealers.
    Stephen Bigelow, Dec 30, 2003
  13. Sandlot

    Gus Guest

    No leather, no spoiler. Only extra cost option was AT
    Gus, Dec 30, 2003
  14. Sandlot

    Gus Guest

    NetSock wrote:

    Warrantys are basically insurance and what you describe is true of any
    insurance company, i.e., recouping costs.
    Gus, Dec 30, 2003
  15. Sandlot

    nobody Guest

    I do take it in for warranty repair at the dealership. This group
    doesn't exclude that. Some examples:

    Wife's 2003 CRV dome bulb worked only sometimes and usually not at
    night. The dealership found nothing during the day and did nothing. The
    light was again not working the night after my wife brought it home from
    service. Thanks to information from others here, I figured it had to be
    the bulb. Put a new one in myself. Fixed it the next day. I could have
    waited two more weeks for another appointment, but it wasn't worth
    putting my kids in a dark car for that long.

    I am about to bring my 2003 Accord EX V6 in. I know from this group that
    my driver seat moving is rather common and plan to be rather emphatic
    about it being fixed. I also know that Honda hasn't provided a good fix
    yet either.

    I got burned on my old 1994 Accord EX, I didn't know about a TSB about a
    problem that plagued me for years. By the time I called Honda after
    finding out about the TSB, I was out of warranty and out of luck.

    I also agree about other reasons listed from other folks. While warranty
    work is "free" in the sense that you are not charged money, it still
    costs. Time is very valuable to me. To juggle kids, work, and schedule
    just to get a car in for a service appointment is enough hassle. Then
    there is tangling with the service department. <g> Information about
    what to expect helps me make more efficient use of my time (and

    As a group, we Honda owners can better assure Honda fixes deficiencies
    by sharing information about our problems with our new Honda's. Sharing
    information is especially important as Honda does not make TSB's
    available to us like some other car makes. Knowledge is power.

    I say, post your problems, solutions and ideas.
    nobody, Jan 1, 2004
  16. Sandlot

    John Horner Guest

    Because when I took it to the dealer they kept the car for three days
    without fixing the problem.

    John Horner, Jan 5, 2004
  17. One benefit of frequent dealership visits is a constant supply of new tools.
    My car has been to the dealer five times in the last three months, and from
    that, I have obtained a nice Snap-on hook tool, a special Honda door clip
    removal tool, and a nice Snap-on socket extension - all left in my car after
    service work.

    Scott MacLean, Jan 6, 2004
  18. That's only "good" if they are left in an accessible place.:) I had a VW
    Beetle which had a mysterious clunk on moderately hard corners - right
    corner... clunk, right corner... no clunk, left corner... clunk, left
    corner... no clunk......

    When someone else drove the car with me in the front passenger seat it was
    plainly coming from in front of the passenger. There was a body "cavity"
    in the (front) trunk, behind the wheel well which I couldn't get my right
    arm down to feel for anything but one day discovered I could get my left
    arm down there, with a bit of grease on it, and I was able to fish out a
    pair of pliers - still have those pliers.:)

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
    George Macdonald, Jan 6, 2004
  19. that, I have obtained a nice Snap-on hook tool, a special Honda door clip
    Makes you wonder what else the forgot. Scary to think we put our lives in
    their hands.
    My_Bloodless_Valentine, Jan 10, 2004
  20. Sandlot

    KM204 Guest

    sincerly disapponted
    KM204, Jan 25, 2004
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