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If you have a problem with a 2003 or 2004, why post it here for a fix? Take
it in for warranty repair. To post it here for people to say "take it in" is
a waste of time for the rest of us.

5 time Honda Owner
 
If you have a problem with a 2003 or 2004, why post it here for a fix? Take
it in for warranty repair. To post it here for people to say "take it in" is
a waste of time for the rest of us.
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Personally I'll bend over backwards to stay away from the dealer entirely
even for minor warranty work. As an example, why anybody would prefer the
aggro involved in having a burned out bulb replaced by the dealer vs.
replacing yourself is beyond me - I'd rather pay for the bulb and DIY.

This newsgroup is about discussing Hondas in general, finding fixes is only
part of the purpose - finding quirks, glitches etc. which are common among
a group of owners is a useful exercise.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
 
If you think any of us have anymore experience that those Certified
mechanics, your crazy. Yes there are many good mechanics out here. However,
they have no machine to diagnose nor are they there to witness the failure.
Any work you perform based on newsgroup will undoubtedly cancel your
warranty. A new Honda EX is about 28k. Am I willing to take a chance on a
yard mechanic, I don't think so.


George Macdonald said:
Personally I'll bend over backwards to stay away from the dealer entirely
even for minor warranty work. As an example, why anybody would prefer the
aggro involved in having a burned out bulb replaced by the dealer vs.
replacing yourself is beyond me - I'd rather pay for the bulb and DIY.

This newsgroup is about discussing Hondas in general, finding fixes is only
part of the purpose - finding quirks, glitches etc. which are common among
a group of owners is a useful exercise.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who,
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me??
 
I don't agree totally.

If someone's horn quite working (for example), there is no harm in telling
them to check the connector (at the horn) and the fuse. This is very typical
advice one would receive here, and it would not "invalidate" the warranty if
they were to take it upon thereself to fix.

There are also some of us that have more experience than the "certified
tech" that would end up working on our cars. Additionally, it is also
typical to take a greater "pride" in workmanship, when you are working on
your own car.

And lastly, any repairs that are done by dealers, gets billed back to the
factory. Wanna guess how they recoup those costs? That's right...higher car
prices for all of us.

Now don't get me wrong...any warranty work that is major, or that would
effect the validity of a warranty, should be referred to the dealer, but I
just don't agree with your "across the board" statement.

Take care.

--
'03 S2000
'94 Accord

It's just about going fast...that's all...

http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/
 
Good point.

I have also heard countless stories about scratches, damages, and thefts
while their car was in the "custody" of the dealership.

And you also might want to consider how many different people are driving
your car...and how they are operating it...especially if you have a "high
end" or performance car.

I wonder what kind of "test drive" the 20 year old "certified technician"
would give my S2000 after a tire balance... ;)

Take care.

--
'03 S2000
'94 Accord

It's just about going fast...that's all...

http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/
George Macdonald said:
Personally I'll bend over backwards to stay away from the dealer entirely
even for minor warranty work. As an example, why anybody would prefer the
aggro involved in having a burned out bulb replaced by the dealer vs.
replacing yourself is beyond me - I'd rather pay for the bulb and DIY.

This newsgroup is about discussing Hondas in general, finding fixes is only
part of the purpose - finding quirks, glitches etc. which are common among
a group of owners is a useful exercise.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who,
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me??
 
Sandlot said:
If you have a problem with a 2003 or 2004, why post it here for a fix? Take
it in for warranty repair. To post it here for people to say "take it in" is
a waste of time for the rest of us.

5 time Honda Owner
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Why? Because that's what newsgroups are for. Experienced owners and
potential owners still want / need to know what's coming in the newer
models.

Some new owners live 100 miles from their dealer. Some will ask for help
from the broad knowledge base represented here, rather than spend an
hour on the phone with a dealer that doesn't read (or understand) the
service bulletins that arrive daily. Some folks can't get along without
their car for a week while the dealer swaps the rear differential three
times (CRV) before they find out what's really causing the problem. :-(

Sure, the ones who haven't figured out what the owner's manual is their
_friend_ should be shot at dawn, but they're here for _our_ entertainment.

'Curly'

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Even an experienced technician can not properly evaluate a
problem from afar. Without a qualified person with the proper
equipment on the other end to do the actually work, one is merely
making an educated guess. Why folks will try to save a
comparably few dollars on the maintenance, on a vehicle that
costs nearly 30K, is sort of foolish IMO. Take your vehicle to
the guys that know it best at a dealership. You will be best
served in the long run.


mike hunt
 
Hey Mikey...you're back!

Didn't miss ya much, but I am glad to see your back to your self serving
agenda. :)

How was the village over the holidays?

Hope they didn't tie ya to a post and stone ya!

Even an experienced technician can not properly evaluate a
problem from afar.
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Ahh...the wisdom returns...
Without a qualified person with the proper
equipment on the other end to do the actually work, one is merely
making an educated guess.
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Wow! I see the holiday break has rested your brain cells!
Why folks will try to save a
comparably few dollars on the maintenance, on a vehicle that
costs nearly 30K, is sort of foolish IMO.
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Yea...but your opinion isn't worth nothing here...sorry.
Take your vehicle to
the guys that know it best at a dealership.
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This is nothing more than generalized statement, that hold no
merit...nothing more.
You will be best
served in the long run...
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....if you don't listen to Mikey. :)


--
'03 S2000
'94 Accord

It's just about going fast...that's all...

http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/
 
Bob said:
If you think any of us have anymore experience that those Certified
mechanics, your crazy. Yes there are many good mechanics out here. However,
they have no machine to diagnose nor are they there to witness the failure.
Any work you perform based on newsgroup will undoubtedly cancel your
warranty. A new Honda EX is about 28k. Am I willing to take a chance on a
yard mechanic, I don't think so.
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Wow, where are you buying your Hondas? I paid $20,500 for my '03 EX sedan.
 
If you think any of us have anymore experience that those Certified
mechanics, your crazy. Yes there are many good mechanics out here. However,
they have no machine to diagnose nor are they there to witness the failure.
Any work you perform based on newsgroup will undoubtedly cancel your
warranty. A new Honda EX is about 28k. Am I willing to take a chance on a
yard mechanic, I don't think so.
Click to expand...

I do *not* need lessons in the abuses performed by "certified mechanics"
and their bosses. If you want your precious EX to be the dealership gopher
car for most of the day or just a joyrider for the unofficial top-speed
tester at the dealership go ahead; if you want fasteners broken and parts
which get in the way of the piece rate thrown away, go ahead. Meanwhile
the rest of us will continue to DIY and have reliable transportation with
only a few minutes and $$ inconvenience for such things as replacing a
headlamp or marker bulb.

As for the warranty cancellation - utter BS!

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
 
Yep, in CA we pay big buck for them. 20k for all leather EX with spoiler
ect.?
 
NetSock said:
I don't agree totally.
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And lastly, any repairs that are done by dealers, gets billed back to the
factory. Wanna guess how they recoup those costs? That's right...higher car
prices for all of us.
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Secondly lastly, I prefer to do repairs on my schedule, not my dealers.
 
NetSock wrote:

(snip)
And lastly, any repairs that are done by dealers, gets billed back to the
factory. Wanna guess how they recoup those costs? That's right...higher car
prices for all of us.
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Warrantys are basically insurance and what you describe is true of any
insurance company, i.e., recouping costs.
 
I do take it in for warranty repair at the dealership. This group
doesn't exclude that. Some examples:

Wife's 2003 CRV dome bulb worked only sometimes and usually not at
night. The dealership found nothing during the day and did nothing. The
light was again not working the night after my wife brought it home from
service. Thanks to information from others here, I figured it had to be
the bulb. Put a new one in myself. Fixed it the next day. I could have
waited two more weeks for another appointment, but it wasn't worth
putting my kids in a dark car for that long.

I am about to bring my 2003 Accord EX V6 in. I know from this group that
my driver seat moving is rather common and plan to be rather emphatic
about it being fixed. I also know that Honda hasn't provided a good fix
yet either.

I got burned on my old 1994 Accord EX, I didn't know about a TSB about a
problem that plagued me for years. By the time I called Honda after
finding out about the TSB, I was out of warranty and out of luck.

I also agree about other reasons listed from other folks. While warranty
work is "free" in the sense that you are not charged money, it still
costs. Time is very valuable to me. To juggle kids, work, and schedule
just to get a car in for a service appointment is enough hassle. Then
there is tangling with the service department. <g> Information about
what to expect helps me make more efficient use of my time (and
irritation!).

As a group, we Honda owners can better assure Honda fixes deficiencies
by sharing information about our problems with our new Honda's. Sharing
information is especially important as Honda does not make TSB's
available to us like some other car makes. Knowledge is power.

I say, post your problems, solutions and ideas.
 
Sandlot said:
If you have a problem with a 2003 or 2004, why post it here for a fix? Take
it in for warranty repair. To post it here for people to say "take it in" is
a waste of time for the rest of us.
Click to expand...


Because when I took it to the dealer they kept the car for three days
without fixing the problem.

John
 
One benefit of frequent dealership visits is a constant supply of new tools.
My car has been to the dealer five times in the last three months, and from
that, I have obtained a nice Snap-on hook tool, a special Honda door clip
removal tool, and a nice Snap-on socket extension - all left in my car after
service work.

George Macdonald said:
I do *not* need lessons in the abuses performed by "certified mechanics"
and their bosses. If you want your precious EX to be the dealership gopher
car for most of the day or just a joyrider for the unofficial top-speed
tester at the dealership go ahead; if you want fasteners broken and parts
which get in the way of the piece rate thrown away, go ahead. Meanwhile
the rest of us will continue to DIY and have reliable transportation with
only a few minutes and $$ inconvenience for such things as replacing a
headlamp or marker bulb.

As for the warranty cancellation - utter BS!

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who,
Click to expand...
me??
 
One benefit of frequent dealership visits is a constant supply of new tools.
My car has been to the dealer five times in the last three months, and from
that, I have obtained a nice Snap-on hook tool, a special Honda door clip
removal tool, and a nice Snap-on socket extension - all left in my car after
service work.
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That's only "good" if they are left in an accessible place.:-) I had a VW
Beetle which had a mysterious clunk on moderately hard corners - right
corner... clunk, right corner... no clunk, left corner... clunk, left
corner... no clunk......

When someone else drove the car with me in the front passenger seat it was
plainly coming from in front of the passenger. There was a body "cavity"
in the (front) trunk, behind the wheel well which I couldn't get my right
arm down to feel for anything but one day discovered I could get my left
arm down there, with a bit of grease on it, and I was able to fish out a
pair of pliers - still have those pliers.:-)

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
 
that, I have obtained a nice Snap-on hook tool, a special Honda door clip
Makes you wonder what else the forgot. Scary to think we put our lives in
their hands.
 
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