Alignment Problem 95 Integra

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Nick, Jun 8, 2005.

  1. Nick

    Nick Guest

    Hello everyone,

    I had my tires changed a little over a year ago because the
    inner side of the tire was worn out. When I had the tires changed I
    also had an alignment done.
    About a month ago I had a bubble forming on my front passenger
    side of my tire and had this replaced. Seeing that the tire was less
    than a year old, I opted not to replace this one. I went this
    afternoon to change my oil and noticed that the same problem that I
    had last year with the inner side of the tire was happening on the
    tire that I did not replace. Now obviously this is again an alignment
    problem, but my question is what is the likelihood that the problem
    would be in the same place?
    Also the car had 14" rims which came with the car and my
    cousin who had the car before me replaced with 15" Acura GS-R alloy
    rims. I'm also assuming that this shouldn't be a problem either. I'm
    just wondering looking back at the alignment paper it shows my car
    Make and Mode. Are the specifications shown on these sheets a range
    for all Integras or is there a specific one for the GS-R model which
    should have be used on my LS model?

    Thanks in advance,

    Here are the results from the alignment done last year if it helps:

    Left Front
    Actual Before Specified Range
    Camber -0.7 -0.7 -1.2 .8
    Caster 0.4 0.4 0.2 2.2
    Toe -0.04 -0.09 -0.04 0.04

    Right Front
    Actual Before Specified Range
    Camber -0.7 -0.7 -1.2 .8
    Caster 0.2 0.2 0.2 2.2
    Toe -0.02 -0.04 -0.04 0.04

    Actual Before Specified Range
    CrossCamber 0.0 -0.0
    CrossCaster 0.2 0.2
    TotalToe -0.05 -0.13 -0.08 0.08
    Set Back 0 1/16°

    Left Rear
    Actual Before Specified Range
    Camber -0.5 -0.8 -2.0 0.0
    Toe 0.05 -0.04 0.02 0.08

    Right Rear
    Actual Before Specified Range
    Camber -0.7 -0.8 -2.0 0.0
    Toe 0.05 -0.02 0.02 0.08

    Actual Before Specified Range
    TotalToe 0.10 -0.05 0.04 0.16
    Thrust Angle -0 -0
    Nick, Jun 8, 2005
  2. Nick

    jim beam Guest

    1. not all alignment shops are any good. sure, they print a fancy
    looking data sheet, but it's useless if the tech didn't place the
    sensors properly.

    2. wheels often have slight bends in them. a good shop will rotate
    wheels so the sensors detect deviation & allow for it, but you're at the
    mercy of a competent tech.

    3. you can't adjust the camber or castor on an integra unless you buy
    special adjustable wishbones. if stuff is bent, it needs to be bent
    back. again, need a competent shop for that. the "adjustable" stuff is
    just toe. toe angles are typically quoted as a range. could an
    unscrupulous shop adjust to one end of the range knowing that it
    accelerates wear?

    personally, i like to have mine set to close to zero at the front as it
    makes cornering slightly better, but it tends to wear front tires on the
    inside edge.

    bottom line, take it to a reputable shop with new equipment and keep
    taking it back if you're not satisfied. eventually, they'll do it right
    just so they stop having you waste their time.
    jim beam, Jun 9, 2005
  3. Nick

    Nick Guest

    Thanks for the info. This shop that I had the alignment done at was
    just an alignment shop and thinking that that's all they do (and being
    in business for over 30 years), they should know their stuff. Now I'm
    questioning of if I should even call them to have them the same
    situation happen again in a year.
    Do you or anybody else suggest that I take it to a Firestone
    which has a lifetime alignment warranty, or should I go and take it to
    an Acura dealer?

    Nick, Jun 12, 2005
  4. Nick

    Dave L Guest

    I have the Firestone lifetime alignment warranty and have gotten my money's
    worth, BUT - you need to be wary.

    1. They wanted to sell me new front brake rotors, since my brakes were
    squeaking sometimes. Those same rotors were replaced less than a year
    prior, by OEM rotors. I replaced the front pads myself - problem solved.

    2. Told me I needed new brake fluid. Just had it changed by another shop
    about a month earlier.

    3. Wanted to change the oil - only had about 1k miles since the last oil
    change. Declined and I checked it later that day. Clean and clear (Mobil

    4. Recommended some belts be replaced. Took it to my local shop for a 2nd
    opinion. Ok, they needed replacement. Had them do it cheaper than
    Firestone (don't remember the exact costs involved).

    5. Said I needed to change my transmission fluid (for automatics). I drive
    a 5-speed manual - no transmission fluid to replace!

    Few more things, but you get the idea.

    You're probably wondering why I was still taking my car there. I tell them
    no need to do their "courtesy" check.

    I'm not saying they are all bad, but just be careful. Also some techs will
    do a better alignment than others, at the same location.
    Dave L, Jun 13, 2005
  5. Nick

    jim beam Guest

    Dave L wrote:
    no kidding! had my civic's alignment done last week. was told that i
    had a problem - the rear was out and it couldn't be fixed. i checked
    with the tech & got him to show me what the problem was. turns out,
    he'd never done a honda before and didn't know where the compensator arm
    adjusters were!!! and alignment shops want you to /pay/ for this kind
    of "expertise"!!!
    jim beam, Jun 13, 2005
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