air filter at 18k miles?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by JRStern, Mar 22, 2011.

  1. JRStern

    JRStern Guest

    Took my 2010 Accord in for B1 service,
    dealer says I need $120 worth of cabin and engine
    air filters.

    Total ripoff or what?

    J.
     
    JRStern, Mar 22, 2011
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  2. JRStern

    Clete Guest


    Yes
     
    Clete, Mar 22, 2011
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  3. JRStern

    Tegger Guest


    What does your Owner's Manual say?

    Are those filters included in the B1 service?

    Part of the utility of the Owner's Manual is the schedule definitions that
    were helpfully included by Honda. Not that anybody actually reads them, of
    course...
     
    Tegger, Mar 22, 2011
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  4. JRStern

    JRStern Guest

    I don't have the manuals here,
    but apparently the rule of thumb is 15k to 30k miles,
    and they are not standard B1 service.

    Nor, apparently, are they included in the optional
    Hondacare contract.

    But I'm doing nothing but suburban driving, I would expect
    them to last on the long end, not the short end, of
    such a range. But googling around, apparently it's not
    all that shocking to find them "dirty" even at the short
    end. So, my guess is the dealer is being a little aggressive
    about it, but maybe not outrageously so.

    J.
     
    JRStern, Mar 22, 2011
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  5. JRStern

    MLD Guest

    Have a Toyota but ran into the same kind of push by the Dealer--They wanted
    about $140 total for installing air filter and cabin air cleaner.
    Aftermarket costs are about $16 ea (On-Line) and maybe about $35 ea at the
    Dealer's. Both are relatively easy to install on my car. Check You Tube
    for some videos on how to change them on your Model.
    MLD
     
    MLD, Mar 22, 2011
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  6. JRStern

    Tegger Guest



    Then refuse the replacement. The dealer is trying pad his margins.



    These engines draw so little air for the surface area of the filter that
    the filter would need to be /exceedingly/ filthy to affect air flow.

    The old carbureted V8s used to draw so much air that you could tell by the
    sound of the intake when the filter was getting clogged. And the filter
    could look fairly clean and still be clogged enough to reduce air flow.

    Yours are just dandy. Leave them until Honda says to change them.
     
    Tegger, Mar 22, 2011
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  7. JRStern

    JRStern Guest

    well, they put a couple of dirty ones in a bag and gave them to me.

    I suppose if these were really mine, they look dirty enough to offer
    to replace. Just how dirty they have to be to matter, I dunno - the
    service droid was at pains to tell me it wouldn't hurt the car if I
    left them in longer.

    Car on lease, for better or worse I'd like to have the dealer do all
    service, which should be minimal over three years.

    And I might not be back to the dealer for another six months for the
    next oil change. All in all ... marginal, but I guess OK.

    J.
     
    JRStern, Mar 22, 2011
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    Seth Guest

    I forget where I was (probably taking one of my kids to a practice for
    something) and one of the moms there asked me what I was reading. I showed
    it to her and she asked where I got them. Told her form the glove
    compartment and she should check hers.
     
    Seth, Mar 22, 2011
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  9. Yeah, that service writer is ripping off management. He didn't even
    mention the blinker fluid.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Mar 22, 2011
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  10. True, they are wear items.

    Who defined that "rule of thumb"?

    If they are not standard B1 service items, are they mentioned AT ALL in
    the service schedule?
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Mar 22, 2011
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  11. JRStern

    Jason Bourne Guest

    Actually there's no need to change the blinker fluid all.

    Just pick up a can of any of the brand name blinker fluid additives/life
    extenders at your favorite auto supply store. Put about two ounces in
    the blinker fluid reservoir fill tube when you do an oil change.

    Check your owner's manual for the reservoir's location. Some are a bit
    hard to find-- and a bitch to get access to.
     
    Jason Bourne, Mar 23, 2011
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  12. JRStern

    MM Guest

    And don't forget to grease the muffler bearings...
     
    MM, Mar 23, 2011
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  13. JRStern

    Tegger Guest

    @news.albasani.net:



    Honda specifies that you must use only Genuine Honda blinker fluid.
    Aftermarket fluids will damage the blinker system.
     
    Tegger, Mar 23, 2011
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  14. Which is why many dealers charge $180 for that.

    Oh--that plus they use the special blinker fluid, the synthetic kind,
    with long-life additives.

    Nonetheless, blinker fluid change intervals remain the same.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Mar 24, 2011
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  15. But what about the bottle of additive they put in at every oil change?
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Mar 24, 2011
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  16. JRStern

    Dddudley Guest

    Which is really strange. They specify only the Genuine Honda parts and
    fluids in most cases yet in the case of fallopian tube relinings, they
    make no recommendations.

    Fickle... that's what they are, fickle!
     
    Dddudley, Mar 24, 2011
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  17. JRStern

    Tegger Guest


    Fallopian tubes are not remanufacturable, that's why.
     
    Tegger, Mar 24, 2011
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  18. JRStern

    rjdriver Guest

    Pretty much. But the dealer is not alone. I was amazed to be quoted $32.00
    for the cabin air filter from an independent parts shop. And the damn thing
    was just a piece of accordian filter paper, without even a proper frame.

    It doesn't take much to add up to $120.00 at a dealer:

    Air Filter - $18.00
    Cabin Air Filter - $32.00
    Crazy Dealer Labor - $70.00

    It you are somewhat mechanically inclined, shop around and replace them
    yourself. But look at yours first. They may only need a shake out rather
    than a replacement at that low a milage, especially the cabin filter.

    Oh, I find that mixing honey and canola oil in a 50/50 ratio makes a very
    affordable blinker fluid.



    Bob
     
    rjdriver, Apr 6, 2011
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  19. JRStern

    C. E. White Guest

    Shaking out the engine filter is not a good idea. In fact overly frequent
    changing of the engine air filter is no only unecessary, it may actually let
    more dirt into your engine than serviceing a filter as specified by the
    owners guide.

    Ed
     
    C. E. White, Apr 6, 2011
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