Adjusting headlight aim on 94-97 accord

Discussion in 'Accord' started by techman41973, Jun 9, 2005.

  1. techman41973

    techman41973 Guest

    My 97 accord has about 140K miles. I recently replaced and upgraded my
    headlight bulbs. The lighting patterns still seems subpar. Several
    people have recommended that I also re-tweak the aim of the headlights
    which can make a significant difference, especially since I keep some
    heavy stuff in my trunk. The service manual shows a horizontal and
    vertical screw adjust for each headlamp. However, there are no specific
    instructions to aim them,nor is there a bubble guide for the vertical
    aim adjust. Does anyone know the best procedure for re-tweaking the aim
    of headlamps?
     
    techman41973, Jun 9, 2005
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  2. What "upgrade" bulbs did you buy? There are a lot of claimed "upgrades" on
    the market that are actually downgrades.
    It's not super terrific on those cars, but it's not awful, either --
    assuming the headlamps are in good shape and you installed good (and not
    just hyped-up) bulbs.
    Don't "tweak" anything -- aim them properly.
    Have your heavy stuff in the trunk when you're aiming the lamps.
    Technically, the only proper way to aim those lamps is with a mechanical
    aim device that interfaces with the three pips on each lens. Assuming the
    beam pattern isn't too munged up by whatever bulbs are installed or wear
    is present in the headlamp optics, you can use the VOR procedure at
    http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/aim/aim.html

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jun 9, 2005
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  3. techman41973

    motsco_ _ Guest


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    Stick fridge magnets to a white steel garage door. Only adjust a little
    bit at a time. See how you like it. Try again next evening :)

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Jun 10, 2005
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  4. techman41973

    Guest Guest

    If you use Daniels VOR technique, and do the job reasonably well, you will
    normally
    be about as well off as if a disinterested technician used superior
    equipment. This method
    can yield good results.

    No doubt, with spectacular equipment and a trained and interested
    technician, you might
    do a little better.
     
    Guest, Jun 10, 2005
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  5. techman41973

    sdlomi2 Guest

    I must say, Daniel, that I've never seen this technique before. I have
    used walls as a reference for trial-and-error; but, thanks for the info--I
    like it. sdlomi2
     
    sdlomi2, Jun 10, 2005
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  6. techman41973

    Guest Guest

    I have used a slightly different method whereby the centerpoints of the
    windshield and backlight
    are used, and a laser pointer through those points establishes the
    centerpoint on the wall. Measured height from from floor level to lamp
    center is transferred to the wall. , as is measured distance between two
    headlight centers.

    Distance from car to wall is still 25 feet.

    Object is to get the high intensity beams concentrated around the
    intersection of the level line
    and the beam line, and the low intensity spot below the level line and to
    the right of the beam lines.
    It is somewhat subjective, but with a little practice can be done well
    enough for most applications.

    The last time I had to do this, the 'dealership' had adjusted my beams, and
    had one pointed toward Mars and the other toward the nether zones. The
    above procedure worked well enough
    to pass the inspection examination (which used expensive equipment).
     
    Guest, Jun 10, 2005
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  7. techman41973

    sdlomi2 Guest

    That sounds neat also. Now I'd like to put it to work. Like to ask you
    a question: I've recently run into a dilemna. Just bought wife a 2005 Town
    and Country. I've found and adjusted the up/down beam, but can not for the
    life of me find an adjustment for the left/right. A friend (mechanic) could
    not find one either. Any ideas? Thx, s
     
    sdlomi2, Jun 10, 2005
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  8. techman41973

    motsco_ _ Guest

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    A Dodge Caraven Town & Country? Brand new and the headlights are already
    out of adjustment?

    Don't get in over your head . . .

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Jun 10, 2005
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  9. techman41973

    sdlomi2 Guest

    Thx for the warning, 'Curly'. But I knew before purchase (I'm a retired
    dealer plus I did paint/body work for ~8 years.) that the left front had
    been "worked". Thanks again. Agree with you that such could be a signal to
    be wary of. s
     
    sdlomi2, Jun 10, 2005
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  10. There isn't one. You've just run into one of the US DOT's many "we know
    better than the rest of the world" dumb ideas.

    When NHTSA FINALLY moved to allow visual aim of US headlamps by modifying
    the beam pattern to incorporate a (barely usable, laxly controlled)
    cutoff, they allowed visual aim in the vertical direction only. On a
    visual-aim headlamp, horizontal aim is legally required to be
    nonadjustable unless a VHAD (3 lens pips or a calibrated level scale,
    etc.) is provided for mechanical horizontal aim. Their claimed reasoning?
    "There's no such a thing as a usable visual beam cue for horizontal aim".
    Despite the fact the rest of the world outside North America has been
    doing it successfully since 1952. (also: "Modern headlamps work so well
    that their horizontal aim isn't very critical". These guys are writing the
    rules!) So what do you guess will happen when a car with
    non-aimable-in-the-horizontal-direction headlamps has a fender bender?

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jun 10, 2005
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  11. You're welcome. Still curious what bulbs you put in.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jun 10, 2005
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  12. I just park on a long dark street at night with a light colored fence
    or something at the end and adjust the high beams so I can get the
    best effective illumination down at the end of the street. When you
    use a close in aiming points, such as 25 feet away, a 1/16" error in
    adjustment at that wall can be a huge error hundreds of feet away
    where you really want to see things. Plus you can't do much to
    correct any vertical parallax error when you do the aiming at a wall
    25 feet away.
     
    Ashton Crusher, Jun 10, 2005
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  13. techman41973

    sdlomi2 Guest

    AFAIK, they are oem's--whatever that may be, with the
    non-horizontal-aiming ability you explained to me. Thanks a bunch, & sorry
    I know no more about the type; I just "a-s-s-u-m-e-d" they were oem's! sam
     
    sdlomi2, Jun 11, 2005
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