98 CRV traction

Discussion in 'CR-V' started by Boomer, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. Boomer

    Boomer Guest

    I live in the upper peninsula of Michigan. We happen to live in a spot that
    get most of the snow each winter. We get between 2 and 300 inches each
    winter. Our little CRV seems to get around pretty good. However, I noticed
    on a hill once covered with packed snow and ice that when the traction got
    marginal, one of my tires was not spinning. Is this normal? I thought it was
    an all wheel drive car. I confess that I am ignorant of what I should
    expect from my CRV in terms of traction. The good news is that this vehicle
    with 110 thousand miles on it is running beautifully and requires very
    little maintenance. I plan to keep it for the rest of my life.

    What I am wondering is this. Should I take it into my mechanic this upcoming
    winter when he can test drive it and see if the drive train needs repair
    somewhere. This vehicle only gets 20 mpg in short run city driving. It gets
    29 and even better sometimes on the highway. I only burn non alcohol
    gasoline on the recommendation of my mechanic. He said that my car was never
    made to burn alcohol and it is not that good for it. Since I know
    practically nothing about automobiles, I take his word for it.

    Michael
     
    Boomer, Jun 22, 2011
    #1
  2. Ummmmmm....it's an all wheel drive car, not a 4WD truck with lockable
    rear/center differentials.

    My guess is, it's plenty good enough for the weather you find yourself
    in most of the time--*especially* if you use winter tires. For the
    really extreme weather that it's not suitable for, do what many of us
    do--stay home and wait a day or so for things to clear.

    You can do that, or you could go out and buy the most extreme vehicle
    you can find to tackle even the thousand-year storms that *may* come by
    in your lifetime. Doesn't make any sense, but that's what some people
    do.


    Here's an idea: you should take it into your garage and park it where
    it can sit until you read the owner's manual that you threw around
    somewhere back in 1997 because "hell, I know how to drive a car, I don't
    need no owner's manual!".

    ....you should always, always, always read your owner's manual.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jun 22, 2011
    #2
  3. Boomer

    Tinkerer Guest

    It's an "intelligent" 4x4. In normal use it is a front wheel drive car but
    if the front wheels start to lose traction it automatically engages the rear
    wheels as well.
     
    Tinkerer, Jun 23, 2011
    #3
  4. Boomer

    Tegger Guest



    The 2WD CR-V has an open diff, that's why one wheel spins and one does not.

    The 4WD version of the CR-V might have a locking feature in its rear diff,
    I don't know.
     
    Tegger, Jun 23, 2011
    #4
  5. Boomer

    Boomer Guest

    "Tinkerer" wrote in message

    It's an "intelligent" 4x4. In normal use it is a front wheel drive car but
    if the front wheels start to lose traction it automatically engages the rear
    wheels as well.
    --
    Tinkerer

    Thanks Tegger and Tinkerer,

    I have a 4WD CRV. I was wondering why all the wheels were not trying to get
    up that hill. I made an error in my first post. I had one wheel that was not
    spinning according to my wife. I had three that were. It looks like the
    drive train is working properly. I did eventually make it up that hill by
    making a bit of run at it. On normal cold packed snow day on this same hill
    I have no problem. However, when there is a bit of a thaw and it refreezes,
    it is a very slippery place. I will not replace this vehicle for this mostly
    rare problem.

    Michael
     
    Boomer, Jun 23, 2011
    #5
  6. Boomer

    Boomer Guest

    "Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote in message

    Ummmmmm....it's an all wheel drive car, not a 4WD truck with lockable
    rear/center differentials.

    My guess is, it's plenty good enough for the weather you find yourself
    in most of the time--*especially* if you use winter tires. For the
    really extreme weather that it's not suitable for, do what many of us
    do--stay home and wait a day or so for things to clear.


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    If I waited for things to clear it would be approximately 7 months. Clearly
    you do no live in the upper peninsula of Michigan. When it begins to snow in
    late September or the beginning of October, We can expect it to clear here
    in April or May. Most people are not prepared to wait that long to get out
    again. Our town is on an 800 foot rise off of Lake Superior. The rising
    moisture from the lake dumps on us right away.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    You can do that, or you could go out and buy the most extreme vehicle
    you can find to tackle even the thousand-year storms that *may* come by
    in your lifetime. Doesn't make any sense, but that's what some people
    do.


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    We usually get just a few inches each snowfall. Some snowfalls during the
    winter are 2 or 3 feet. I am not trying to prepare for a 100 year snowfall,
    just normal weather here.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Here's an idea: you should take it into your garage and park it where
    it can sit until you read the owner's manual that you threw around
    somewhere back in 1997 because "hell, I know how to drive a car, I don't
    need no owner's manual!".


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    Are you this belligerent in person? I suspect not. The internet makes for
    great bravery among who lead a frightened existence. Here you can be the
    great internet warrior and express your wrath. : ) Dream on.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    ....you should always, always, always read your owner's manual.
     
    Boomer, Jun 23, 2011
    #6
  7. Here's an idea: you should take it into your garage and park it where
    it can sit until you read the owner's manual that you threw around
    somewhere back in 1997 because "hell, I know how to drive a car, I don't
    need no owner's manual!".


    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------[/QUOTE]

    You don't come here often, do you.

    If you come here and announce to the world that (a) you're ignorant, and
    (b) strongly prefer to remain that way, as evidenced by (c) your
    admitted lack of reading the owner's manual, and yet (d) you want people
    here to spoon feed you the information that's contained in your owner's
    manual...

    .....you will get the very treatment you deserve.

    I would tell you this in person, yes. Don't you dare come into a group
    and announce that you REFUSE to read the DEFINITIVE source of
    information about your car that the automaker willingly supplied to you,
    yet you need someone here to tell you what it says.

    Discussion about items that are not owner's manual items? Great, let's
    do an information exchange. Trying to figure out the finer details of
    what the owner's manual or service manual actually means, because the
    people who wrote it were idiots and/or translated it across five
    languages, one at a time? Absolutely, we do it all the time.

    But, "I am ignorant about cars and have never read my owner's manual but
    I came here to have you all tell me what it says"? And you WILLINGLY
    announce that lunacy to the world, as if it's a perfectly normal
    request? That somehow we now have an obligation simply because you
    think so?

    That you never even considered how lunatic your question is, speaks to
    how lunatic it is.

    Here's a simple question: even if you had never read it before, why
    DIDN'T you read your owner's manual when you realized you had a question
    about how the car works????

    Take your time, we'll wait.


    ....you should always, always, always read your owner's manual.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jun 24, 2011
    #7
  8. No, you don't.

    You have an AWD CRV. There is no such thing as a 4WD CRV.

    A little bit of research will tell you all you need to know about
    Honda's RealTime system.

    No doubt Wikipedia is your friend.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jun 24, 2011
    #8
  9. Boomer

    jim beam Guest

    On 06/23/2011 07:33 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
    <snip>

    i love you elmo.
     
    jim beam, Jun 24, 2011
    #9
  10. Boomer

    Boomer Guest

    "Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote in message

    Here's an idea: you should take it into your garage and park it where
    it can sit until you read the owner's manual that you threw around
    somewhere back in 1997 because "hell, I know how to drive a car, I don't
    need no owner's manual!".


    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------[/QUOTE]

    You don't come here often, do you.

    If you come here and announce to the world that (a) you're ignorant, and
    (b) strongly prefer to remain that way, as evidenced by (c) your
    admitted lack of reading the owner's manual, and yet (d) you want people
    here to spoon feed you the information that's contained in your owner's
    manual...

    .....you will get the very treatment you deserve.

    I would tell you this in person, yes. Don't you dare come into a group


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    You would tell me in person? I really doubt it. You only have balls when you
    are hidden behind a glowing screen. Just another internet warrior wanna be.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    and announce that you REFUSE to read the DEFINITIVE source of
    information about your car that the automaker willingly supplied to you,
    yet you need someone here to tell you what it says.


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    I never refused, I did not get an owners manual when I bought it used.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Discussion about items that are not owner's manual items? Great, let's
    do an information exchange. Trying to figure out the finer details of
    what the owner's manual or service manual actually means, because the
    people who wrote it were idiots and/or translated it across five
    languages, one at a time? Absolutely, we do it all the time.

    But, "I am ignorant about cars and have never read my owner's manual but
    I came here to have you all tell me what it says"? And you WILLINGLY
    announce that lunacy to the world, as if it's a perfectly normal
    request? That somehow we now have an obligation simply because you
    think so?

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    OK smarty pants, I in fact did not say what you just said. I said I was
    ignorant of how the car operated. I did not get a manual when I bought this
    car used. I guess some on this newsgroup use it for a podium to announce
    their superiority to all who will listen. You made up stuff that I did not
    say in order to berate me. Very classy.
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    That you never even considered how lunatic your question is, speaks to
    how lunatic it is.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    I see, anyone who knows almost nothing about a car is a lunatic.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Here's a simple question: even if you had never read it before, why
    DIDN'T you read your owner's manual when you realized you had a question
    about how the car works????

    Take your time, we'll wait.


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Please hold your breath while you are waiting.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    ....you should always, always, always read your owner's manual.
     
    Boomer, Jun 24, 2011
    #10
  11. Boomer

    Boomer Guest

    "Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote in message

    Ummmmmm....it's an all wheel drive car, not a 4WD truck with lockable
    rear/center differentials.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Ummmmmmm.. it's an RT4WD CRV. Of course it is not a truck. I looked at the
    vehicle and did some internet research. It is an RT4WD. My research found a
    very technical explanation of how it works. Went over my head. Yeah I know,
    I must be a lunatic because my area of expertise is not automobiles. Again,
    please hold your breath until I understand how the RT4WD works.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    My guess is, it's plenty good enough for the weather you find yourself
    in most of the time--*especially* if you use winter tires. For the
    really extreme weather that it's not suitable for, do what many of us
    do--stay home and wait a day or so for things to clear.

    You can do that, or you could go out and buy the most extreme vehicle
    you can find to tackle even the thousand-year storms that *may* come by
    in your lifetime. Doesn't make any sense, but that's what some people
    do.


    Here's an idea: you should take it into your garage and park it where
    it can sit until you read the owner's manual that you threw around
    somewhere back in 1997 because "hell, I know how to drive a car, I don't
    need no owner's manual!".

    ....you should always, always, always read your owner's manual.
     
    Boomer, Jun 24, 2011
    #11
  12. It's an all wheel drive car.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jun 24, 2011
    #12
  13. Then you don't know me.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jun 24, 2011
    #13
  14. Again, one should ALWAYS read the owner's manual. If you bought it used
    without one, you should have immediately pursued buying one.

    But again, people think, "I don't need an owner's manual, hell, I know
    how to drive!!!" and move on--and then come to places like this to ask
    questions that are straight out of the owner's manual.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jun 24, 2011
    #14
  15. Boomer

    Tegger Guest



    Then it has an open front diff, which is why one wheel spins and the other
    doesn't.

    As for the non-alcohol thing, that's arrant nonsense. The Owner's Manuals
    for ALL Hondas plainly state that ethanol up to 10% concentration is safe
    for the fuel system and engine.
     
    Tegger, Jun 24, 2011
    #15
  16. Boomer

    Jim Yanik Guest

    You don't come here often, do you.

    If you come here and announce to the world that (a) you're ignorant,
    and (b) strongly prefer to remain that way, as evidenced by (c) your
    admitted lack of reading the owner's manual, and yet (d) you want
    people here to spoon feed you the information that's contained in your
    owner's manual...

    ....you will get the very treatment you deserve.

    I would tell you this in person, yes. Don't you dare come into a
    group and announce that you REFUSE to read the DEFINITIVE source of
    information about your car that the automaker willingly supplied to
    you, yet you need someone here to tell you what it says.

    Discussion about items that are not owner's manual items? Great,
    let's do an information exchange. Trying to figure out the finer
    details of what the owner's manual or service manual actually means,
    because the people who wrote it were idiots and/or translated it
    across five languages, one at a time? Absolutely, we do it all the
    time.

    But, "I am ignorant about cars and have never read my owner's manual
    but I came here to have you all tell me what it says"? And you
    WILLINGLY announce that lunacy to the world, as if it's a perfectly
    normal request? That somehow we now have an obligation simply because
    you think so?

    That you never even considered how lunatic your question is, speaks to
    how lunatic it is.

    Here's a simple question: even if you had never read it before, why
    DIDN'T you read your owner's manual when you realized you had a
    question about how the car works????

    Take your time, we'll wait.


    ...you should always, always, always read your owner's manual.
    [/QUOTE]

    Elmo,many people would rather ask someone than open up a book and find the
    answer themselves. it's the easy way out.
    I used to work with a bunch of techs who always did that.
    they'd get mad when I told them their answer was on the microfich,or asked
    if they had checked the fiche first,before bothering me.

    --
    Jim Yanik
    jyanik
    at
    localnet
    dot com
     
    Jim Yanik, Jun 24, 2011
    #16
  17. Boomer

    Boomer Guest

    "Tegger" wrote in message


    Then it has an open front diff, which is why one wheel spins and the other
    doesn't.

    As for the non-alcohol thing, that's arrant nonsense. The Owner's Manuals
    for ALL Hondas plainly state that ethanol up to 10% concentration is safe
    for the fuel system and engine.


    --
    Tegger

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    Thanks for the reply Tegger. Of course I don't know if my mechanic has any
    experience with this. It may just be his own prejudice. He said that there
    are some plastic or non-metal items that the alcohol comes in contact with
    and that the alcohol would eventually rot them. You have much more
    experience with Honda's. You would no doubt no whether there was the
    slightest grain of truth in that assessment.
    Michael

    PS I guess I better see where I can go to buy an owners manual for this car.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
     
    Boomer, Jun 24, 2011
    #17
  18. Elmo,many people would rather ask someone than open up a book and find the
    answer themselves. it's the easy way out.[/QUOTE]

    We're talking the owner's manual here.

    If it's not in the owner's manual, or if the owner's manual is unclear,
    then ask away.

    But I'm not even talking about "open the book to find the answer". How
    about starting with simply reading the owner's manual to begin with--not
    to find a specific answer, but to get an understanding of how the car
    and its features work.

    If I open a chemistry textbook looking for something specific, I'll be
    lost. But if I decide I want to know chemistry, I open the textbook and
    start learning.

    If I decide I want to own a car, I open the manual and start learning.

    Ignore the owner's manual at your own peril.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jun 25, 2011
    #18
  19. Ah, the old wives' tales.

    Again, reading the owner's manual would have told him that...
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jun 25, 2011
    #19
  20. You would have realized that early on had you read your owner's manual...

    It's chock full of information that you don't know about your car to
    this day.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jun 25, 2011
    #20
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