98 Civic Rattling Noise when pressed on Gas

Discussion in 'Civic' started by futuralogic, Mar 29, 2005.

  1. futuralogic

    futuralogic Guest

    Dear friends,

    Before I am posing this question I read through all issues related to
    noise and nothing exactly fits my case. I have a 98 Civic with 60,000
    miles on it. This is my first issue with Civic. I have done regular
    oil changes and maintenance so far.

    One bad habit of mine, never heating the engine before starting to
    drive in winters. I thought it was applicable to only old cars and did
    not relaize my new car is getting old too :-( Of course I have
    changed my habit since 2 weeks. 3 Weeks ago I started hearing a
    rattling noise when I accelerated from start. When I took my foot off
    the gas pedal it disappeared. It does not happen when I am driving at
    constant speed but only when I press on gas - almost always. My wife
    says the sound is in fact very metallic rattle to hear from outside.
    I thought I was late on oil change but even I had that done it has
    persisted.

    Kindly advise me or give me hints. I want to be educated before I show
    up at repair center. If you can recommend any repair centers I
    appreciate that too. Thanks a lot in advance!

    - Bob
     
    futuralogic, Mar 29, 2005
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  2. futuralogic

    tomb Guest

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    | One bad habit of mine, never heating the engine before starting to
    | drive in winters. I thought it was applicable to only old cars and
    | did not relaize my new car is getting old too :-(

    OK, at the risk of starting a religious war, I would like to state that
    there's absolutely nothing wrong with not warming up the car. The engine's
    most stressful times are when it's too cold; therefore, getting it up to
    nominal temperature quickly is imperative. The best way to achieve this is
    to start driving it gently immediately after starting it, without flooring
    it until it has reached nominal temperature. Excessive idling will only warm
    up the engine very slowly, and therefore subject it to more stress than
    actually starting to use it right away.

    Plus, it's better on the environment.

    But that's not what you asked...

    |. 3 Weeks ago I started hearing a
    | rattling noise when I accelerated from start. When I took my foot off
    | the gas pedal it disappeared. It does not happen when I am driving at
    | constant speed but only when I press on gas - almost always.

    "Rattling" is a very loose term and it's hard to guess. However, if you
    think it could match "pinging" or "knocking" (which does sound metallic),
    then it could be that your engine is knocking. It usually happens under
    load, and can have several reasons. Perhaps the two most common ones are bad
    batch of gas (try the next higher octane rating at the next fillup, if it
    goes away it's knocking for sure), or a timing that's too advanced. Did you
    ever check/adjust the timing on the car?

    Of course it might be some totally different rattling. Maybe others have
    other suggestions...
     
    tomb, Mar 29, 2005
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  3. futuralogic

    Randolph Guest

    Couldn't agree more.
    Right you are. My first thought was that the noise could be from the
    valves. Does the "rattle" vary with engine RPM? Is it more like a
    regular ticking, or a random rattling? Does it disappear after the
    engine heats up? What weight oil do you have in the engine? How cold is
    it where you live?

    My second thought is noise from the catalytic converter heat shield. As
    you accelerate, the engine will move a tad in its mounts, and the
    exhaust system will shift a bit too. Perhaps the heat shield is loose
    and rattles under acceleration?
     
    Randolph, Mar 29, 2005
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  4. We're all on the same page there. And I'd hate to think of a 60K Honda being
    old; my daughter's '93 Accord has over 210K now and I expect it to give her
    a few more years of reliable service.

    The heat shield also comes to my mind. Since the noise is described as a
    "very metallic" rattle I doubt it is coming from inside the engine. I'm also
    led away from things like exhaust leaks for the same reason. I can't think
    of anything very bad that fits this description - just something loose and
    rattling.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Mar 29, 2005
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  5. futuralogic

    Jason Guest

    Hey futuralogic,

    I think mike is right... I had the same from on my civic 98.. The rattle
    comes from the heat shield under the car (near catalytic converter), usually
    one of the hinges has broken off, very easy to fix and your local garage or
    what I did: took it off!

    Keep on driving!
    Jason
     
    Jason, Mar 29, 2005
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    Me Guest

    My 1994 Civic has been doing that the last two winters, but only when
    it's less than freezing temps. My Honda-only mechanic said that it's
    normal for older civics, something about the valves being a little
    loose and the oil not getting to them very quickly. He gives the same
    advice as the others, drive it gently until it warms up.

    Nate
     
    Me, Apr 2, 2005
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  7. futuralogic

    futuralogic Guest

    Big thanks to Randolh and others who thought it was the heatshield.
    yes, it was. Yesterday I took to MIDAS location and found that bolts
    had been rusted and shield was loose. They put a clamp. It cost me
    just $6. I am so glad it was not a big problem!

    Bob
     
    futuralogic, Apr 11, 2005
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