94 Civic Eratic Idle Problem - Have read all posts still no luck!

Discussion in 'Civic' started by tek, Jul 3, 2006.

  1. tek

    tek Guest

    Hi all. This is my first post to the group I hope I'm able to get help.

    I have a 94 Honda Civic D16Z6 1.6L V-Tech. It overheated and warped the
    head. I replaced all gaskets mill had the head milled flat and pressure
    tested. Replace a busted throttle body (it was broken during removal).
    And all attached sensors. Removed and check IAC Valve. Engine sounds
    good, sounds great actually. No pinging or valve ticks. However the car
    idle eratically after being on for only minutes. Pressing on the gas
    causes the engine to hold a steady rpm above 1600. The pedal to engine
    response is good which makes me think this is not a timing issue. I
    have no idea how to check the timing. I have a Chiltons manual but
    could find nothing listed. What could cause this other than known
    sensor issues TPS, IACV, FITV, no codes to display, the engine light
    never comes on. Engine does not overheat. Just a very very eratic idle,
    1000 - 1600 rpm. I'm tired of everyone thinking I want to race them at
    red lights. Can anyone think of any other known issues?

    Help is GREATLY Appreciated!!!!
     
    tek, Jul 3, 2006
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    Elle Guest

    Did you thoroughly purge the cooling system of air? Is the
    cooling system topped off?

    Starting from cold engine, this will require idling the car
    for 40 minutes or so to get the fan to come on twice.

    Air in the cooling system will result in inadequate
    temperatures of certain engine control components,
    potentially throwing off the idle.

    My Chilton's manual covers the 94 Civic. "Checking and
    Adjusting the Timing" is in Section 2, under "Ignition
    Timing."
     
    Elle, Jul 3, 2006
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    Try filling the coolant reservoir to the MAX, three mornings in a row
    (while the engine is stone cold). If the level is dropping each morning,
    you're still expelling trapped air. Don't forget to run your heater on
    HOT so the air can escape from the heater core too.

    'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', Jul 3, 2006
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    Jim Yanik Guest

    Doesn't the 94 Civic have a coolant air-bleed port like my 94 Integra B18
    engine?
     
    Jim Yanik, Jul 4, 2006
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  5. tek

    tek Guest

    I have cleaned the cooling system 3 times now flushing it out one of
    those times. Topping it off each time and letting it idle with the heat
    full blast.

    I have a new symptom now.

    When I start the car it immediately starts hissing. I am positive this
    is due to a vacuum leak somewhere but I cannot pin point exactly where
    it is comming from. The car is able to run and drives great, however
    after running the car for say at least 15 minutes when you turn it off
    some coolant will spill out. I assuming its from the same place that is
    hissing. It seems to be under the intake manifold somewhere however I
    cannot see down in there far enough to find the leak.

    Anybody know of any commong vacuum leaks or hosing that came come
    undone easily?

    Thanks.

    Tek
     
    tek, Jul 5, 2006
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    TeGGeR® Guest


    Air leak. Check Fast Idle Valve under throttle body.

    With engine full-warm and running, remove air pipe from cleaner to throttle
    body. Immediately in front of the throttle plate, there are two ports in
    the throttle body. Is there suction at the LOWER port in the throttle body?
    If so, Fast Idle Valve is stuck.
     
    TeGGeR®, Jul 5, 2006
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  7. tek

    tek Guest

    I read that on another post somewhere and checked it. When I checked it
    it wasn't all the way warmed up I don't think but it had suction. I
    know this isn't the problem however this part was just recently
    replaced from another civic I have. The other civic was in perfect
    running order. Also I know this would not cause the whistling noise I
    am hearing along with the stuttering that occurs frequently when
    pressing on the gas in gear.

    Any other ideas? Good gueses so far however I have already tried all
    these avenues.


    Tek
     
    tek, Jul 6, 2006
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  8. tek

    TeGGeR® Guest



    You have an air leak somewhere. Follow the whistling noise. It is obviously
    giving you a clue here.
     
    TeGGeR®, Jul 6, 2006
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    tek Guest

    LOL I know that it is giving me a clue I could not find the whistling
    noise..... I also know why I couldn't find it. I had already found it,
    I thought it was under the intake manifold in a hose I couldn't get to.


    It was the intake manifold itself.... well the gasket anyway. I
    replaced it and it purrs like a kitten! Wow this car has been sitting
    for two years because of two problems, throttle body and the attached
    map sensor and a messed up intake manifold gasket.

    God it feels good to have my trusty civic back!

    Thanks to everyone for their help. I learned a hell of a lot of things
    about my car just trying to figure out these problems. I want to thank
    the internet gods, my grandpa for getting me into computers, and also
    all the honda people out there for sharing their secrets with the user
    group community!

    Tek
     
    tek, Jul 6, 2006
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