94 ACCORD MAIN RELAY LOCATION??? I CAN'T FIND IT...HELP!!!

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i have a 94 accord that just likes to die and not start on me sometimes. i
have narrowed my problem down to the main relay. and i have looked all over
for the little thing and i cant find it. i have found a few sites, but
none that cover my car. can someone please help me out and let me know
where the part is and how to get it out... anything will help. thanks a
lot
 
If you're just replacing it, having the new one in hand so
you know for what shape to look can be very helpful. It
should be under the left side of the dash, to the left and
above where your left knee is when you're driving. You'll
probably need a flashlight. You'll have to get your head and
shoulders into the footwell section, left side. It can be
done.

For a drawing of its location, try the 1991-93 Accord manual
at http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html . Click on
the Fuel sections, then the component location section. It's
on the third page of drawings, on the right of the page.

Not as helpful is the drawing of it at (see part #25)
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.
jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=Accord&catcgry2=1994&catcgry3=4DR+
DX&catcgry4=KA5MT&catcgry5=CONTROL+UNIT+%28CABIN%29
 
Better:
http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/media/manuals/AccordManua
l/400/6-216.pdf

Should work for a 94 Accord, too.
 
well i found it. i decided to get pissed and just rip out all the relays
that i could see. it ended up bein on the right hand side of the steering
column, wide in the open...not that hard to get to really. didnt take any
tools or anything. thanks though. too bad it wasnt the problem...i was
drivin it after i got it out and took the soldering gun to it. it died on
me just a few blocks down the road. so now im thinkin its the igniter.
guess im gonna rip the distributor apart tomorrow and get that taken care
of, then see what happens with it. thanks again
 
ballinjefe22 said:
well i found it. i decided to get pissed and just rip out all the relays
that i could see. it ended up bein on the right hand side of the steering
column, wide in the open...not that hard to get to really. didnt take any
tools or anything. thanks though. too bad it wasnt the problem...i was
drivin it after i got it out and took the soldering gun to it. it died on
me just a few blocks down the road. so now im thinkin its the igniter.
guess im gonna rip the distributor apart tomorrow and get that taken care
of, then see what happens with it. thanks again
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It sounds like it could be the igniter or the ignition switch.
 
well...does anyone know of any DIY ways to fix the igniter or would i just
have to buy a new one? im a broke college student, so im kinda pressed
for cash. everything on the car has been done by me, so i have no problem
with workin on it anymore.
 
I've never heard of an igniter being fixed, apart from the
wires on it coming loose and just needing to be re-attached.
Mine needed a new wire harness at some point, but I bought a
whole new distributor housing and that took care of the
dilapidated harness.

Honda igniters do fail pretty regularly. A life of 8+ years
is a good long life for an igniter.

Buy only an OEM one. If you want some online OEM parts sites
that sell them, just ask.

www.tegger.com/hondafaq has some advice on checking whether
the igniter or the coil (or something else) is the problem.

I'm surprised the main relay was on the right of the
steering column... sorry about the bum steer.
 
High Tech Misfit said:
It sounds like it could be the igniter or the ignition switch.
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I would vote for the ignition switch that also had to be replaced in
my '94 Accord about 2 years ago and exhibited similar problems before
that.

Rudy
 
are there any different syptoms between the ignition switch and the
igniter? a little more info.... it tends to shut off more when im higher
in the rpms, i dont really knwo if that means much its just somethign that
i have realized. i still have all the power to everythign else when it
dies out too... :-/ thanks again guys
 
If you're still able to run the car, then it's probably not
the igniter.

Try this link for help separating the possible causes:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#startrun

Also, how old are your ignition wires, plugs, distributor
cap and rotor?

Gotta good air filter and fuel filter?
 
well...even when the car dies and wont start again, the fuel pump still
turns on when i turn the key. i can hear it for the first few seconds
when i turn the key to the ON position. ill go through and check all my
wires and plugs, but i doubt it is bc of those, i just chnaged them all a
couple months ago. so now im leanin towards igniter or ignition switch...
well ill restate whats goin on and give some more details...


the car randomly dies when im driving down the road with no warning at
all. the check engine light and the battery and oil light all turn on,
just like right before turning the car on. then when i stop the car and
try to start it up, it jsut cranks. if i turn the key off then back on, i
can hear the fuel pump prime, so its not the main relay. but then the car
will still nto always start. i still haev power to everythign when the car
dies... radio, lights, heater, everythgin is still on except the engine.
then if i let the car sit for a while, like 10 minuets or so, it starts up
again and will drive for a little bit. the length that it drives when it
starts again seems to depend on how long i let it sit.

thats abotu all i can think of now....i really am lost. any help is
gettin closer to the prob. thanks guys
 
well...even when the car dies and wont start again, the fuel pump still
turns on when i turn the key. i can hear it for the first few seconds
when i turn the key to the ON position. ill go through and check all my
wires and plugs, but i doubt it is bc of those, i just chnaged them all a
couple months ago. so now im leanin towards igniter or ignition switch...
well ill restate whats goin on and give some more details...


the car randomly dies when im driving down the road with no warning at
all. the check engine light and the battery and oil light all turn on,
just like right before turning the car on. then when i stop the car and
try to start it up, it jsut cranks. if i turn the key off then back on, i
can hear the fuel pump prime, so its not the main relay. but then the car
will still nto always start. i still haev power to everythign when the car
dies... radio, lights, heater, everythgin is still on except the engine.
then if i let the car sit for a while, like 10 minuets or so, it starts up
again and will drive for a little bit. the length that it drives when it
starts again seems to depend on how long i let it sit.

thats abotu all i can think of now....i really am lost. any help is
gettin closer to the prob. thanks guys
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that set of symptoms is part and parcel of a failing ignition switch. They
overheat and break contact. Once it cools off it will work again for a
while. The cycle will get shorter and shorter until it will only run for a
few seconds at a time. It is screwed to the back of the key cylinder with
two tiny phillips screws. The cable on in plugs in near the fuse box. Take
it off & pop it open. I'll bet you find burned contacts. The part is about
$30 from the dealer. You chould be able to change it yourself in about 15
minutes.

Take a look at http://www.visualimpressions.ca/switch/
 
Elle said:
Better:
http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/media/manuals/AccordManua
l/400/6-216.pdf

Should work for a 94 Accord, too.
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Nice -- thanks!

For everyone here: If you backspace to AccordManual, you'll get a whole
load of different manuals.

For hahas, I tried this and it works too, getting a bunch of civic
manuals.
http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/media/manuals/CivicManual/

Remco
 
ballinjefe22 said:
well...even when the car dies and wont start again, the fuel pump
still turns on when i turn the key. i can hear it for the first few
seconds when i turn the key to the ON position. ill go through and
check all my wires and plugs, but i doubt it is bc of those, i just
chnaged them all a couple months ago. so now im leanin towards
igniter or ignition switch... well ill restate whats goin on and give
some more details...


the car randomly dies when im driving down the road with no warning at
all. the check engine light and the battery and oil light all turn
on, just like right before turning the car on. then when i stop the
car and try to start it up, it jsut cranks. if i turn the key off
then back on, i can hear the fuel pump prime, so its not the main
relay. but then the car will still nto always start. i still haev
power to everythign when the car dies... radio, lights, heater,
everythgin is still on except the engine. then if i let the car sit
for a while, like 10 minuets or so, it starts up again and will drive
for a little bit. the length that it drives when it starts again
seems to depend on how long i let it sit.

thats abotu all i can think of now....i really am lost. any help is
gettin closer to the prob. thanks guys
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Have a look at www.gcw.org.uk/rover.htm which although it is Rover,
uses the Honda engine. Your symptom sounds like a dirty distributor
cap on the inside or outside. Clean it up in the kitchen sink with
washing up liquid and dry off in the airing cupboard. Refit and test.

HTH
 
Graham said:
Have a look at www.gcw.org.uk/rover.htm which although it is Rover,
uses the Honda engine. Your symptom sounds like a dirty distributor
cap on the inside or outside. Clean it up in the kitchen sink with
washing up liquid and dry off in the airing cupboard. Refit and test.
Click to expand...

Sorry that URL should be http://www.gcw.org.uk/rover/igniter.htm
 
well i finally got the car fixed. i decided to drop the $30 that a local
shop wanted to diagnose the problem. it ended up bein the igniter. the
guy at the shop told me to buy an entire new distributor bc the O-ring was
kinda bad. but that would have ran me about 350 so i called a local
wrecking yard and got one for $70. all is well now. thanks for the help
guys.
 
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