[QUOTE="jim"] do you have a large heavy key ring? it is common for keys with lots of junk attached to not return fully to the "run" position after starting. and in that case, you will quickly burn out the ignition switch contactors. separate your car keys from all the rest and keep them with just a lightweight tag, and make sure you turn the key back to the "notchy center" of the "run" position after starting. [/QUOTE] The key was on a ring by itself attached to an old hotel key fob. Not heavy at all. [QUOTE] do you know this? or are you saying this because the car doesn't start? [/QUOTE] That was a guess on my part but the local Honda dealer has confirmed this. Sometimes, the engine will turn but there is no power to the plugs. They said it may be a switch(?) in the distributor. [QUOTE] without proper diagnosis, you can't say this. what did you do to test? [/QUOTE] Car never had this problem until after the distributor was rebuilt. I'm just working my way backwards to when the problem started. [QUOTE] which relays?. check: http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainrelayoperation/badmainrelay.html[/QUOTE] The service manager said the tech replaced the main relay but it did not solve the problem. Looking at the above page, I'm surprised their replacement main replay didn't help. The car did die on my once but started right back up. Once I got it home it wouldn't start. When the tow truck got here it would start. Towed it to the local Honda dealer and it wouldn't start. They tried it the next day and it did start. They replaced the ignition switch and a few days later it died while it was idling. They haven't been clear as to whether it now starts or doesn't but they have not been able to figure it out. [QUOTE] bad relays are more commonly seen in hot weather, so it's a seasonally more likely cause. [/QUOTE] As I stated in my other reply to you, the problem was intermittent. It didn't seem to be dependent on the outside temperature. It sometimes would not start when it was cold outside, warm outside or hot outside. I live in west Texas so our seasons run from pretty cold to very hot.