'89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Voyager, Jan 20, 2004.

  1. Voyager

    Voyager Guest

    Any ideas what this might be???

    He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons
    car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles
    home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
    reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and all
    of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved
    but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
    noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd
    or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!

    any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?

    THANK YOU!!! Jerry
     
    Voyager, Jan 20, 2004
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  2. Voyager

    Jafir Elkurd Guest

    Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns
    in the months prior to this?
     
    Jafir Elkurd, Jan 20, 2004
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  3. Voyager

    Jafir Elkurd Guest

    Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns
    in the months prior to this?
     
    Jafir Elkurd, Jan 20, 2004
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  4. You broke it!!!!!!!!

    You owe your son a brand new car.





    "If life were like a box of chocolates, everyone would be black and expire in 2
    years."
     
    He Hate Retards, Jan 20, 2004
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  5. Voyager

    Graham W Guest

    I had this on my 91 Rover 216 GSi (UK).

    The front drive shaft had popped out of the wheel-hub and therefore
    the drive was lost. On looking at the problem the next day, it seems
    the drive shaft had tightened up when 4/5ths home during re-assembly
    at the repair shop (having changed the CV joint) and the circlip
    hadn't engaged. Cleaned up the ends and made sure that it went
    fully home.
     
    Graham W, Jan 20, 2004
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  6. Voyager

    Graham W Guest

    I had this on my 91 Rover 216 GSi (UK).

    The front drive shaft had popped out of the wheel-hub and therefore
    the drive was lost. On looking at the problem the next day, it seems
    the drive shaft had tightened up when 4/5ths home during re-assembly
    at the repair shop (having changed the CV joint) and the circlip
    hadn't engaged. Cleaned up the ends and made sure that it went
    fully home.
     
    Graham W, Jan 20, 2004
    #6
  7. Voyager

    N.E.Ohio Bob Guest

    I'm betting the rear upper ball joint. Relatively easy repair. I once
    did one in a food store parking lot, in the dark, at 15 degree temp.
    bob
     
    N.E.Ohio Bob, Jan 20, 2004
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  8. Voyager

    N.E.Ohio Bob Guest

    I'm betting the rear upper ball joint. Relatively easy repair. I once
    did one in a food store parking lot, in the dark, at 15 degree temp.
    bob
     
    N.E.Ohio Bob, Jan 20, 2004
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  9. dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so
    he's taking out his aggression in the forum

    I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally
    broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the grinding
    too.
    The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts and
    differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning
    codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with a
    costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car.
    Sorry bud.

    By the way I have some questions on this topic as well,
    to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
    Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how
    hard is a front differential replacement?
    Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
    can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to
    do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics.
    I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones
    mentionned in this post.
     
    Yuri Nebogatov, Jan 20, 2004
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  10. dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so
    he's taking out his aggression in the forum

    I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally
    broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the grinding
    too.
    The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts and
    differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning
    codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with a
    costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car.
    Sorry bud.

    By the way I have some questions on this topic as well,
    to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
    Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how
    hard is a front differential replacement?
    Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
    can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to
    do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics.
    I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones
    mentionned in this post.
     
    Yuri Nebogatov, Jan 20, 2004
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  11. heh, i didnt mean jafir when in my last post, i guess the one i was talking
    about was removed
     
    Yuri Nebogatov, Jan 20, 2004
    #11
  12. heh, i didnt mean jafir when in my last post, i guess the one i was talking
    about was removed
     
    Yuri Nebogatov, Jan 20, 2004
    #12
  13. Broken CV joint. Diff gears don't know if the car is turning or not.

    $100 for a rebuilt axle.
    Yes.

    Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
    Naw. Just think it through, and get busy.

    We would be 2 ppl to try to
     
    Stephen Bigelow, Jan 20, 2004
    #13
  14. Broken CV joint. Diff gears don't know if the car is turning or not.

    $100 for a rebuilt axle.
    Yes.

    Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
    Naw. Just think it through, and get busy.

    We would be 2 ppl to try to
     
    Stephen Bigelow, Jan 20, 2004
    #14
  15. Voyager

    Andrew Smit Guest

    im not so convinced that it is the cv, when one of those goes it is
    quite abrupt and no grinding involded, just look at both of the drive
    shafts going to the wheels, if one is hanging down and not connected it
    broken. it is probally the differential as Jafir said

    Andrew
     
    Andrew Smit, Jan 20, 2004
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  16. Voyager

    Andrew Smit Guest

    im not so convinced that it is the cv, when one of those goes it is
    quite abrupt and no grinding involded, just look at both of the drive
    shafts going to the wheels, if one is hanging down and not connected it
    broken. it is probally the differential as Jafir said

    Andrew
     
    Andrew Smit, Jan 20, 2004
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  17. Voyager

    null_pointer Guest

    to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
    Just put the front end on a pair of jackstands and take the wheels off
    (for visibility). Start the engine and put it into gear. You should
    be able to differentiate driveshaft and/or hub problems from internal
    trans problems. Don't bother trying to replace the diff: get a
    guaranteed used transaxle from a boneyard.
    Just had a thought (imagine that??!!) It could also be that the clutch
    disintegrated. I replaced one about 9 months ago in an old Acura
    where the damper springs all fell out of the clutch disc and made some
    pretty horrible noises...also, the car barely moved.
     
    null_pointer, Jan 20, 2004
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  18. Voyager

    null_pointer Guest

    to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
    Just put the front end on a pair of jackstands and take the wheels off
    (for visibility). Start the engine and put it into gear. You should
    be able to differentiate driveshaft and/or hub problems from internal
    trans problems. Don't bother trying to replace the diff: get a
    guaranteed used transaxle from a boneyard.
    Just had a thought (imagine that??!!) It could also be that the clutch
    disintegrated. I replaced one about 9 months ago in an old Acura
    where the damper springs all fell out of the clutch disc and made some
    pretty horrible noises...also, the car barely moved.
     
    null_pointer, Jan 20, 2004
    #18
  19. Voyager

    Voyager Guest

    Thanks for the help so far, some good ideas.

    Sorry I forgot to mention it was an Automatic Trans.

    Also... I live in Syracuse Ny and the weather sucks for working on a car.
    COLD and snowing every day....
    I have to clean out the garage tomorrow and take a look.
     
    Voyager, Jan 20, 2004
    #19
  20. Voyager

    Voyager Guest

    Thanks for the help so far, some good ideas.

    Sorry I forgot to mention it was an Automatic Trans.

    Also... I live in Syracuse Ny and the weather sucks for working on a car.
    COLD and snowing every day....
    I have to clean out the garage tomorrow and take a look.
     
    Voyager, Jan 20, 2004
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