'88 accord throttle position sensor insanity!!!

Discussion in 'Accord' started by psy, Feb 8, 2005.

  1. psy

    psy Guest

    My Accord Lxi '88 has a problem. It began as a combo initial big engine
    start-up rev-v-v-v, then drop down to a regular idle/ rev cycle.
    Although annoying, in gear the car operated fine, but at stops reverted
    to the idle/rev cycle. Was getting less ruly and prone to rev-v-v-v.
    I got an electronic diagnostic that fingered the throttle position
    sensor for replacement. My car parts source said the replacement part
    was 'obsolete.'
    On inspection, this part appeared riveted on to the throttle, which
    bolts onto the throttle body. Went to a junkyard, retrieved a
    replacement throttle, when installed it reverted to the better behaved
    original routine. Returned it for not fixing things.
    When I reinstalled my original unit, now it was rev-v-v- all the time.

    Went backed to junkyard with new knowlege that with a dremel tool
    grinder making a slot, the actual throttle position sensor can be
    removed and retrieved a substitute in this manner, but the car wasn't a
    It reved as before.
    Is there any reason that a replacement throttle position switch is not
    available by honda without replacing the entire throttle body for over
    Am I screwed?
    Please, help me. I am at wits and financial ends.
    psy, Feb 8, 2005
  2. psy

    Remco Guest

    I wonder if your trottle control cable isn't binding or something -
    that may also throw off the throttle position sensor.
    What happens when you look under the hood? Does the trottle return all
    the way to normal?

    Also carefully check for a vacuum leak. Thing like that could cause
    weird things like that to happen too.
    Here's a trick I've used to find vacuum problems: spritz a shot of
    ether (starting fluid) near the suspected spot. The ether will drive
    the air out and cause the car to run normal or at least change, albeit
    for one hot second. It will let you find cracked hoses, etc.
    Just be careful where you "spritz", as ether is obviously flameable and
    you probably like to have eyebrows.. :)

    Remco, Feb 8, 2005
  3. psy

    Jafir Elkurd Guest

    I'd look at coolant level, base idle speed, and controlled or uncontrolled
    vacuum leaks. I'd look really carefully at the Fast Idle Valve (a
    controlled vacuum leak) after you've looked at the others. They go bad
    quite often on older fuel injected accords.

    If you still are certain it's the throttle angle sensor, you should be able
    to get a complete throttle body for less than 50 bucks, considering you can
    get an entire engine for an 86-89 accord for $100.

    www.car-part.com will have some nice prices.
    Jafir Elkurd, Feb 8, 2005
  4. psy

    jim beam Guest

    first, the position sensor is repairable. i wrote up how to do it a few
    weeks ago. google is your friend.

    second, what makes you sure it's the tps? what code do you get? if you
    tried two replacement units & it didn't finger the problem, it's not the
    right repair! i've limited direct experience with the symptoms you
    describe, but it sounds like it might be an air lock in the coolant.
    try bleeding the system & report back.
    jim beam, Feb 8, 2005
  5. psy

    TeGGer® Guest

    There should be a bit of slack in the throttle cable when fully closed.

    Another approach is a propane torch. Don't light it, but aim the nozzle
    close to the area of the suspected leak, then turn the gas on momentarily.
    If there's a leak, the idle will change noticeably. If there's no change,
    there's no leak.
    TeGGer®, Feb 8, 2005
  6. psy

    motsco_ _ Guest


    A shot TPS doesn't cause those symptoms. To diagonse a bad tPS, use an
    analog meter and put it across the center and one of the outer pins of
    the TPS and slowly rotate the throttle. You'll see itjump or dip when it
    hits the exact position you go at highway speed.

    motsco_ _, Feb 8, 2005
  7. psy

    Remco Guest

    That's a cool trick - Thanks, John!
    (always redoing my 1925 house, I usually have a propane torch floating
    around - not always container of starting fluid)
    Remco, Feb 8, 2005
  8. psy

    psy Guest

    What do the symptoms sound like to you?
    psy, Feb 8, 2005
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