2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for $12k.

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    Useful Info Guest

    Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
     
    Useful Info, Jun 29, 2007
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    Gunz4me Guest

    OMG, I can just see one of those on the interstate getting knocked into
    the median by the draft of a big semi. The only plus I see with that
    tiny car is that it should be easy to find a parking spot, assuming I
    can make it to my destination without being run off the road.

    Second thought, I would much rather have a Honda Civic Hybrid than this
    tiny car.
     
    Gunz4me, Jun 29, 2007
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    Mike Hunter Guest

    At the price of $16,000 for that midget two passenger car, to drive on
    American highways, to save a relative few hundred dollars a year, one would
    be better off just buying a actual
    coffin for $5,000

    mike
     
    Mike Hunter, Jun 29, 2007
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    Mike Hunter Guest

    At the price of $16,000 for that midget two passenger car, to drive on
    American highways, to save a relative few hundred dollars a year, one would
    be better off just buying a actual
    coffin for $5,000

    mike
     
    Mike Hunter, Jun 29, 2007
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  5. Both, my '82 & '83 Honda Civics get better than that and they are
    bigger... Whoopty doo!

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Jun 29, 2007
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  6. Both, my '82 & '83 Honda Civics get better than that and they are
    bigger... Whoopty doo!

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Jun 29, 2007
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    Tegger Guest



    We have Stupid cars already up here in Canada.

    I must say, they look most utterly strange on the highway among the SUV's,
    like mobile phone booths. And next to a semi, like roadkill waiting to
    happen.

    I measured one of these things once to see just how much room there was
    between bumper and steering wheel, and I came up with forty inches. That's
    right, just over one yard between whatever you ran into and you. Go measure
    your own car. How much distance is there in that location? On my Integra, I
    get 70", almost double the "crumple zone".

    I notice the Stupid's length has been increased by a whopping 3" for the
    2008 model year, this in order to to "improve safety". Sorta tells ya
    something, doesn't it?
     
    Tegger, Jun 30, 2007
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    Tegger Guest



    We have Stupid cars already up here in Canada.

    I must say, they look most utterly strange on the highway among the SUV's,
    like mobile phone booths. And next to a semi, like roadkill waiting to
    happen.

    I measured one of these things once to see just how much room there was
    between bumper and steering wheel, and I came up with forty inches. That's
    right, just over one yard between whatever you ran into and you. Go measure
    your own car. How much distance is there in that location? On my Integra, I
    get 70", almost double the "crumple zone".

    I notice the Stupid's length has been increased by a whopping 3" for the
    2008 model year, this in order to to "improve safety". Sorta tells ya
    something, doesn't it?
     
    Tegger, Jun 30, 2007
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    Jeff Guest

    Actually, it is a perfect car for people in NYC. They're small enough so
    that you can just drive them into the elevator and park them in the
    corner of your cubical for the day.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jun 30, 2007
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    Jeff Guest

    Actually, it is a perfect car for people in NYC. They're small enough so
    that you can just drive them into the elevator and park them in the
    corner of your cubical for the day.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jun 30, 2007
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    Graybeard Guest

    Those little "Smart" cars have been running around in Europe for 7 or 8
    years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of them
    on the road. The Mercedes name sells them to some people, but there are
    much better buys for better transportation in Europe, the same as there is
    here.
    If they could get the price down to $10,000, they might make a good
    substitute for a golf cart.
    (Yes, I know, the model sold here is a little different).
     
    Graybeard, Jun 30, 2007
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    Graybeard Guest

    Those little "Smart" cars have been running around in Europe for 7 or 8
    years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of them
    on the road. The Mercedes name sells them to some people, but there are
    much better buys for better transportation in Europe, the same as there is
    here.
    If they could get the price down to $10,000, they might make a good
    substitute for a golf cart.
    (Yes, I know, the model sold here is a little different).
     
    Graybeard, Jun 30, 2007
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    Jeff Guest

    DiamlerBenz reportedly spent over 1,000,000,000 Euros on development of
    the car. But they are far from recovering their investment.

    So this program was much better than their merger of equals with Chrysler.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jun 30, 2007
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    Jeff Guest

    DiamlerBenz reportedly spent over 1,000,000,000 Euros on development of
    the car. But they are far from recovering their investment.

    So this program was much better than their merger of equals with Chrysler.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jun 30, 2007
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  15. That was what my daughter reported when she returned from France about 6
    years ago. She saw them parked and being towed, but didn't see one actually
    on the road. Logically, if they were parked or being towed they must have
    been on the road at some point... unless they were being towed from parking
    place to parking place.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jun 30, 2007
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  16. That was what my daughter reported when she returned from France about 6
    years ago. She saw them parked and being towed, but didn't see one actually
    on the road. Logically, if they were parked or being towed they must have
    been on the road at some point... unless they were being towed from parking
    place to parking place.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jun 30, 2007
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    jim beam Guest

    ever been to europe? they have semi's over there and /way/ more tiny
    cars than we have. last i heard, their death rate was not worse than ours.
     
    jim beam, Jun 30, 2007
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  18. You spammed us before with this same subject, remember?

    As for the SMART car, I checked some user forums a few months ago. The
    engine is notoriously flimsy; the conventional wisdom is that it is good for
    60-100K km. One owner got good news, though. His engine with 70+ K km
    appeared to be seized but on advice from a more experienced owner he
    loosened the alternator belt. Sure enough - it was the alternator that was
    seized ( a very common problem, apparently). The starter didn't have enough
    torque to turn the dinky diesel with a seized alternator.

    I sure don't want to trade in my 45-60 mpg (real world) five passenger Prius
    with climate control for a two passenger, noisier, thirstier, far less
    reliable, much more sluggish vehicle that - at present - is not even
    available with A/C. (Putting A/C on a 50 hp engine is not likely to be in
    the cards, either.)

    SMART cars have been a money pit for Daimler-Chrysler - can Mercedes make it
    pay?

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jun 30, 2007
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  19. You spammed us before with this same subject, remember?

    As for the SMART car, I checked some user forums a few months ago. The
    engine is notoriously flimsy; the conventional wisdom is that it is good for
    60-100K km. One owner got good news, though. His engine with 70+ K km
    appeared to be seized but on advice from a more experienced owner he
    loosened the alternator belt. Sure enough - it was the alternator that was
    seized ( a very common problem, apparently). The starter didn't have enough
    torque to turn the dinky diesel with a seized alternator.

    I sure don't want to trade in my 45-60 mpg (real world) five passenger Prius
    with climate control for a two passenger, noisier, thirstier, far less
    reliable, much more sluggish vehicle that - at present - is not even
    available with A/C. (Putting A/C on a 50 hp engine is not likely to be in
    the cards, either.)

    SMART cars have been a money pit for Daimler-Chrysler - can Mercedes make it
    pay?

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jun 30, 2007
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  20. Okay, Mike - I have to give you a gold star for that!

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jun 30, 2007
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