2004 Civic Cold Weather Problem

Discussion in 'Civic' started by seagar, Feb 5, 2007.

  1. seagar

    seagar Guest

    I lease a 2004 Civic EX. Ever since the car was new there is this
    strange problem that only happens when the car sits overnight in the
    EXTREME cold weather, (a few days per year).

    Car starts fine. Shift into Drive and the car just sits there, i.e.
    does not propel forward. If you press on the gas the engine revs up as
    if its in neutral. I have had the car back to the dealer on several
    occasions and they finally experienced the same problem one cold
    morning. They flashed the computer with an updated software and then
    contacted the honda engineers who advised them to replace the
    solenoids on the transmission, (whatever they are). The problem still
    remains. The dealer states that this is a very unusual problem.

    I have found an interesting "work-around" fix, in that if the car does
    not initially engage into Drive I shift into reverse and back up a few
    feet and then into drive and away I go.

    I guess the reason that I'm looking for information with this problem
    is that I'm thinking about purchasing this car at the end of the
    lease, (6 months), as it really has been a fine vehicle with the only
    exception being this very rare cold starting phenomenon. The car has
    about 38,000 miles and has driven very well to date.

    My wife feels that we shouldn't buy this vehicle as we do not need to
    repair/replace a transmission and this cold weather problem could be a
    sign of future transmission grief.

    Any suggestions, similar complaints, or comments would be welcomed.
    seagar, Feb 5, 2007
  2. seagar

    jim beam Guest

    drain and fill the transmission fluid [don't flush] with honda fluid.
    sounds like a slightly sticky piston in the hydraulics. if the reverse
    trick frees it up, i'd leave it at that - will probably last for another
    300k miles in this condition. the only "fix" is a rebuild, and it's
    probably worth it, given the low level of problem.
    jim beam, Feb 5, 2007
  3. seagar

    motsco_ Guest


    Like Jim says, or the shifter cable is dragging at the tranny end, and
    made worse when extremely cold.

    Ever have troubles getting the key out or getting it to go into PARK?

    motsco_, Feb 5, 2007
  4. seagar

    seagar Guest

    "troubles getting key out or getting it to go into PARK?" --------Nope

    Car runs great despite this one infrequent problem.
    seagar, Feb 5, 2007
  5. seagar

    Tegger Guest

    Right now I think it's either thick fluid resulting in slow movement inside
    the valve body, or the cable's slightly out of adjustment.

    When the vehicle refuses to move, does the "D" light blink?
    Tegger, Feb 5, 2007
  6. seagar

    me Guest

    I have a 2002 auto lx, 70000km. When very very cold temps, around -25C
    (happend 2 times this winter), my car did like yours did. Shift into drive
    and the car sat there.However, mine did a jerk when putting into drive. I
    then had to rev it above 2000 rpm to get it moving. However, my car had 2
    tranny changes since I bought it used from the dealer with 65000KM. Thus my
    2nd tranny is brand new, it solved my initial problem after the 2nd change.
    I never though to ask the dealer about this cold situation cause I never
    though I myslf would still have a problem after 2 tranny changes. Reading
    your post makes me feel something might still be wrong with my car actually.
    Anyhow, where I'm, trying to get at is the tranny fluid might not be the
    solution. If there is something wrong, it has to be a tranny part which is
    not changed when doing a tranny change. The last tranny was changed before
    christmas. Anyhow, I'll give my dealer a call to see what they think of
    me, Feb 6, 2007
  7. seagar

    WaveSurfer Guest

    Strart using synthetic oils in your vehicles...solves this viscous issue in
    cold weather
    WaveSurfer, Feb 6, 2007
  8. seagar

    jim beam Guest

    don't use so-called "synthetic" in your honda automatic transmission.
    only use honda fluid - hondas have different mechanicals to other autos
    and shift quality goes to blazes if you don't use the correct stuff.
    jim beam, Feb 6, 2007
  9. seagar

    seagar Guest

    There are no lights on the drive selector at all, thus no "D" light to
    seagar, Feb 7, 2007
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