2003 Accord losing MPG on highway

Discussion in 'Accord' started by KDunagan, Jan 13, 2004.

  1. KDunagan

    KDunagan Guest

    This is a rather difficult problem to describe but I'll do my best. I have a 2003 Accord EX 4 cyl, sedan with 22k and some change in miles. When I initially bought the car, I was getting on average 29-31 MPG highway (which is what it's driven on 90% of the time). Lately, I have been getting in the neighborhood or 25-26 MPG highway, sometimes 27.

    The symptoms are: (mostly by feel)

    1. Must keep accelerator pressed with significant pressure to keep car at speed.

    2. When backing off of accelerator, the car slows very very quickly (no coasting to speak of)

    3. It drives, ALMOST, like the parking break is stuck or something. I can sense resistance in the forward movement (at least it SEEMS like resistance), but no brake lights are on and the parking break is not engaged.

    I was told there was no "break in" period but I didn't push the car until I had about 900 miles on it.

    Does anyone have any thoughts as to what might be causing the gas mileage to have dropped like it has?

    Kip
     
    KDunagan, Jan 13, 2004
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  2. KDunagan

    Artfulcodger Guest

    I would go to hi test gas for a tank and put in a can of injection cleaner
    You may have gotten fouled gas and the injectors could be gummy.
    If it works it's a damn cheap fix.
    Mike
     
    Artfulcodger, Jan 13, 2004
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  3. KDunagan

    JXStern Guest

    Automatic transmission problems.

    Have the fluid checked, flushed.

    I don't think there's a recall on this tranny yet (I assume you have
    the auto), but Honda has been having all sorts of auto problems in
    recent years, and that's what your symptoms sound like.

    J.
     
    JXStern, Jan 13, 2004
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  4. Cold weather.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jan 13, 2004
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  5. KDunagan

    Jim Yanik Guest

    wrote in
    I'm surprised no one else mentioned tire pressure.Be sure your tires are
    set at the right pressure.
    Or maybe you have a tire defect,generating high rolling resistance.
    Have you rotated your tires recently?
     
    Jim Yanik, Jan 14, 2004
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  6. KDunagan

    Ed Guest

    wrote in
    Check the obvious first: tire pressure? transmission fluid level? Is the
    car pulling? CV joints leaking? Noise from the steering gear?

    Carefully touch all wheels after a drive. if a brake is sticking that wheel
    will be scorching hot.
     
    Ed, Jan 14, 2004
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  7. KDunagan

    L Alpert Guest

    Air filter?
     
    L Alpert, Jan 14, 2004
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  8. KDunagan

    KDunagan Guest

    Thanks to everyone for the suggestions.

    I know the tire pressures are correct and they have been recently rotated (last month). Not sure why cold weather would cause a drop in mileage but I called the weather dude here and told him what my issues were and could he please arrange for some warmer weather. :)

    All the other suggestions were great. I'll try them as soon as feasible.

    Regards,
    kip
     
    KDunagan, Jan 14, 2004
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  9. Get out and test push.
    It sounds like you're stuck on third....
    Coast on neutral, see if it still drags.
     
    Tibur Waltson, Jan 14, 2004
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  10. KDunagan

    Sean Donaher Guest

    If you're insinuating that the tranny isn't using overdrive, then
    technically, it's stuck in 4th. The 2003 Accord has a 5-speed automatic.
     
    Sean Donaher, Jan 14, 2004
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  11. KDunagan

    Jim Guest

    have a 2003 Accord EX 4 cyl, sedan with 22k and some change in miles. When
    I initially bought the car, I was getting on average 29-31 MPG highway
    (which is what it's driven on 90% of the time). Lately, I have been
    getting in the neighborhood or 25-26 MPG highway, sometimes 27.
    can sense resistance in the forward movement (at least it SEEMS like
    resistance), but no brake lights are on and the parking break is not
    engaged.
    We lost mileage here in NJ too and it was explained in the local paper that
    it's the Winter blend of fuel they use that lowers mileage. So we save the
    air but waste more of a natural resource? NJ stopped using oxygenated fuel
    for good reason but there's still something else in the Winter blend. Wait
    til spring and see if it improves.
    Jim / NJ
     
    Jim, Jan 14, 2004
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  12. KDunagan

    Jim Guest

    I agree that the fuel wouldn't combust the same in cold air as it would in
    warm so more liquid fuel may slip by causing bad mileage.
     
    Jim, Jan 14, 2004
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  13. I never cease to be amazed at the quality physics and chemistry lessons
    doled out on the various auto groups on a regular basis.

    Cold air is MORE dense than warm air, and thus, per unit volume, there is
    more oxygen and more combustion power. By temperature alone, an engine
    should deliver more power in colder air.
     
    Chris Aseltine, Jan 15, 2004
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  14. KDunagan

    Jim Yanik Guest

    But that means more fuel will be used per mile.
    More power just means the motor spins up to a given RPM faster.
     
    Jim Yanik, Jan 15, 2004
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  15. KDunagan

    Tony Hwang Guest

    Hi,
    Cold gasoline does not vaporize as well as when warm. Your phyisics
    knowledge is partial as well. When gas does not vaporize, what is cold
    or warm is gonna do? It's common konwledge when cold, gas mileage goes
    down. Actually one reason cold weather gas is blended differently from
    summer time gas. I never cease to be amazed as well.
    Tony
     
    Tony Hwang, Jan 15, 2004
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  16. The original poster wasn't talking about how well the gas vaporized. He
    claimed that combustion does not occur as well in colder air, which is
    factually incorrect. But, thanks for playing.
     
    Chris Aseltine, Jan 15, 2004
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  17. How about, you can step on the gas pedal less for the same amount of power
    output? Less gas pedal = higher fuel mileage. Nice try though.
     
    Chris Aseltine, Jan 15, 2004
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  18. KDunagan

    Robin Baker Guest

    the fast idle valve controled by the ecu spins up and for a short while
    mileage is affected

    http://community.webtv.net/Robsolo/Robbysmagicpotions
     
    Robin Baker, Jan 15, 2004
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  19. Perhaps he mispoke, and meant a cold engine.
    It's going to -33C tonight.
    How's *your* mileage?

    Btw, what's with the attitude?
    Jeez.

    Steve
    Ottawa
     
    Stephen Bigelow, Jan 15, 2004
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  20. I certainly agree with you. I didn't realize that people were disagreeing
    with this fact. Oddly enough anybody can learn this just watching an hour
    of NHRA 1/4 mile action on the weekend.

    I think I learned that in high school before I went to UTI in Phoenix for
    formal training.

    CaptainKrunch
     
    CaptainKrunch, Jan 15, 2004
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