2002 Honda Accord SE, 4 Cylinder- Cylinder Compression issues

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Amanda, Jul 30, 2009.

  1. Amanda

    Amanda Guest

    Hi all,
    The engine light on my 2002 honda accord just went on. I took it to
    the shop they replaced the spark plug but also said the compression
    was low on cylinder 1. They said it was at 100lbs and should be around
    150 lbs. They said the check engine light might come back on for that.
    After two starts, the check engine light is back on. How concerned
    should I be? It misses while idle and when it goes into the 65-70 mph
    range. Whats the problem? Maybe a head gasket issue? Is it safe to
    drive? How much should it cost to get fixed.. I've also noticed
    slightly worse gas milage. Should that be a concern? The missing
    started after my last oil change, and 3 weeks later, the check engine
    light came on. Did the person who did my oil change potentially mess
    up my car?
     
    Amanda, Jul 30, 2009
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  2. Amanda

    Amanda Guest

    Forgot to mention, car has 117k miles on it.
     
    Amanda, Jul 30, 2009
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  3. With 100 lb compression, the cylinder still should fire.

    Low compression can indicate the condition of valves and rings primarily.

    If compression is low and introduction of some oil into that cylinder
    results in a better reading, worn or broken ring(s) are indicated. If no
    change, a valve may be in the process of being burned.

    Additionally, low compression can indicate a head gasket problem but
    usually this is accompanied by other symptoms such as coolant in the
    exhaust, oil in the coolant etc. Many times, low compression will occur
    in adjoining cylinders.

    If the car has been maintained properly, 117K (as indicated in your
    follow up post) is way too early for serious problems of this nature but
    I'm sure that others here will offer good advice.

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Jul 31, 2009
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  4. Amanda

    john Guest

    The check engine light should have a number, something P-0301. What
    code(s) do you have?

    Spark misses may be caused by a bad spark plug wire or plugs among
    other things (EGR system). In this case you already have new plugs and
    maybe should also check/replace wires if not already (but they should
    still be good at 117K miles).

    Low compression is most likely piston ring wear or valve sealing
    problem. It may be as simple as adjusting valve clearances but can get
    as involved as replacing piston rings for example.

    Besides the simple oil trick mentioned (if squirting oil seals then
    you know it's the piston rings), you may want to consider a "leak-down
    test".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leak-down_tester
     
    john, Aug 5, 2009
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  5. Amanda

    john Guest

    Don't know about the oil change causal factor, at least not as obvious
    as doing a timing belt or tune-up for example. But where was it done,
    Honda dealer? What type of oil/filter?
     
    john, Aug 5, 2009
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  6. Amanda

    jim beam Guest

    three potential causes:

    1. burnt valve. expensive.
    2. blown gasket. expensive, but easy to differentiate from other symptoms.
    3. worn or cracked rings. expensive.

    bottom line, an oil test will tell you if it's a ring or valve/gasket,
    and a look in the radiator when running will tell you if it's the gasket.

    from here, you have two choices

    1. get the repair work done. many labor hours and thus a huge cost.
    four digits.

    2. replace the engine with a used jdm import. three digits typically.

    if it were my car, i'd look into the latter option. not because the old
    engine can't be repaired, but because cheap and available low mileage
    import engines make so much more sense.
     
    jim beam, Aug 8, 2009
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