2000 Accord Brakes - Ceramic Pads?

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Bo Hica, May 31, 2005.

  1. Bo Hica

    Bo Hica Guest

    Wife's car had a brake job (not at dealer) less than a year ago, at ~90K
    miles. Full job - and way full price. I drove it last night and found that
    the job is way way shot - there's so much wobble in the steering and brake
    pedal when braking that I don't think it's safe to even be driving.

    I'm taking it back tomorrow to see if I can get the shop to make it right -
    but I wonder why the job failed so quickly (about 10K miles). I did see on
    the bill that they installed ceramic pads (they charged 55 bux for them
    too!). Are the Honda OEM pads ceramic? Or - did this shop just "do us a
    favor" by selling us the most expensive pads instead of the proper ones?

    Aside from bad pads - any other reasons the brake job may have failed to

    Thanks -
    Bo Hica, May 31, 2005
  2. Bo Hica

    Bo Hica Guest

    They machined the rotors, changed the pads and flushed the fluid. There was
    no apparent quality issue when they were finished. As far as the lugs go, I
    haven't checked them, but the wheels haven't been off since they did the

    I'd assume a missing weight would cause symptoms other than only when
    braking - yes? The car's fine until you hit the brakes.

    - Bo
    Bo Hica, May 31, 2005
  3. Bo Hica

    chris Guest


    Ceramic brake pads are bit nicer than the regular OE ones. Sure they cost a
    little more $$ and let off a white brake dust, instead of black dust from OE

    Did you check your lug nuts? Did they change/machine the rotors? Missing a
    wheel weight?
    chris, May 31, 2005
  4. Bo Hica

    butch burton Guest

    Warped rotors - never ever let anybody ever turn the rotors unless they
    are warped. Rotors are generally warped by idiots using a torque stick
    and a impact wrench to tighten the lug nuts. Fortunately the rotor on
    this one is fairly easy to change - older accords had to have rotors
    pressed into the wheel.

    Has anyone removed/replaced the front tires since the brake job? Some
    say braking and hitting a puddle of water will cause warped rotors -
    doubt that. When I have someone other than myself removing/replacing
    front tires - I take my overpriced snap on click style torque wrench
    and make certain they use it correctly. Finger tighten all 4 -
    slightly tighten - maybe 30FPS crossing pattern and then final tighten
    at 80FPS.

    If this dealer automatically turns the rotors every time - find some
    place else to do your work - find a good locak mechanic and it will
    cost you half what the dealer charges and sounds to me like this dealer
    is a crook trying to empty your wallet.

    WHen I walk through a dealership - I literally have one hand on my
    wallet - high crime area.
    butch burton, May 31, 2005
  5. Definitely take it back to where the work was done. You may find that the
    problem is not with the brakes but with the suspension.
    Alex Rodriguez, May 31, 2005
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    jim beam Guest

    for my money, the problem is most likely the result of incorrect lug nut
    torque procedure by the people that skimmed the disks.

    first, the fact that they skimmed the disks in the first place is a sign
    of people that have a "one size fits all" mentality and are not aware of
    the peculiarities of hondas.

    second, read this to get an idea on the likely cause & therefore solution:


    if the disks are /now/ warped because they've been run in this condition
    for too long, the best solution is replacement. brembo [good quality]
    aftermarket disks are about $45 - $50 each. replace what you have now,
    use oem pads & make sure the wheels are torqued right. you won't have
    any more trouble.
    jim beam, Jun 1, 2005
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