1991 Civic Stalls

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Paul, Jun 11, 2005.

  1. Paul

    Paul Guest

    Hi.

    My car has developed a problem that I cannot find a solution to. It is
    a 1991 Honda Civic Special Edition (Canadian Model), 1.5L, 180,000kms.
    It is basically a DX with power steering and no AC.

    To the problem...

    The car stalls. It only stalls when warm, and only when coming to a
    stop. To be exact, only after coming to a stop. Sometimes it does not
    stall, but almost stalls, then recovers. Sometimes is almost stalls,
    then recovers and over revs, then almost stalls again. Back and Forth.
    Sometimes it fixes itself, other times it stalls. Most of the time,
    it immediately settles down to idle as it should, but at least once per
    trip it will act up. It will sometimes stall with a gentle throttle
    blip at idle as well.

    The problem first started occurring when I had to back the car down a
    hill into my driveway. The problem continues and seems to get slightly
    worse all the time.

    The car always starts immediately after a stall. The check engine
    light is not on, and the ECU is not showing any codes. I have cleaned
    the injectors, replaced plugs, rotor, cap, fuel and air filter. Every
    time I do something nice for the car, it behaves for about one tank of
    gas, then it acts up again. It happens when it is hot out, and when it
    is cold, on summer gas and on winter gas, full tank and empty tank. On
    high octane and low octane. Even though it happens regularly, I cannot
    force the event to occur.

    The dealer says they cannot do anything unless it stalls for them.
    Does anyone have any idea what might be the cause of this? With this
    exception, the car feels great and the engine is strong.

    I appreciate any help or suggestions.

    Thanks.

    -Paul
     
    Paul, Jun 11, 2005
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  2. Paul

    jim beam Guest

    if it's a function of braking, check the one-way valve on the brake
    servo or the vacuum line for leaks.
     
    jim beam, Jun 11, 2005
    #2
  3. Paul

    jim beam Guest

    if it's a function of braking, check the one-way valve on the brake
    servo or the vacuum line for leaks.
     
    jim beam, Jun 11, 2005
    #3
  4. Paul

    mmdir2002 Guest

    My Civic also stall. First during the warming up, the RPM surge then
    hesitate all the time, then settle down. During the stoping at stop
    sign, sometimes I feel the tiny bit
    of staling l, not the major install. It's so tiny stalling that I just
    ignore. I've seen many
    stall problem on Honda that i think it's just normal as long it does
    not effect on
    driving. My stalling hardly effect on driving.
     
    mmdir2002, Jun 12, 2005
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  5. Paul

    mmdir2002 Guest

    My Civic also stall. First during the warming up, the RPM surge then
    hesitate all the time, then settle down. During the stoping at stop
    sign, sometimes I feel the tiny bit
    of staling l, not the major install. It's so tiny stalling that I just
    ignore. I've seen many
    stall problem on Honda that i think it's just normal as long it does
    not effect on
    driving. My stalling hardly effect on driving.
     
    mmdir2002, Jun 12, 2005
    #5
  6. Paul

    scromwell2 Guest

    If you determine it's not the brake assist check valve, get a cheap
    diagnostic fuel pressure gauge (compatible with fuel injection
    pressures - not the 6-10 psi gauge) and tape it to the windshield. If
    the fuel pressure dips when you slam on the brakes, it could be
    something in the fuel tank (pump pickup, etc).
     
    scromwell2, Jun 14, 2005
    #6
  7. Paul

    scromwell2 Guest

    If you determine it's not the brake assist check valve, get a cheap
    diagnostic fuel pressure gauge (compatible with fuel injection
    pressures - not the 6-10 psi gauge) and tape it to the windshield. If
    the fuel pressure dips when you slam on the brakes, it could be
    something in the fuel tank (pump pickup, etc).
     
    scromwell2, Jun 14, 2005
    #7
  8. I don't know if this applies to Hondas, but if it is an automatic tranny
    with a lockup torque converter that symptom can mean a bad lockup solenoid.
    For that problem, in addition to stalling there is a feeling of shuddering
    (instead of dying away) when coming to a stop, just like leaving the clutch
    engaged too long on a manual tranny.

    Otherwise, I like "scromwell2's" recommendation with a fuel pressure guage.
    It would answer a range of questions.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jun 14, 2005
    #8
  9. I don't know if this applies to Hondas, but if it is an automatic tranny
    with a lockup torque converter that symptom can mean a bad lockup solenoid.
    For that problem, in addition to stalling there is a feeling of shuddering
    (instead of dying away) when coming to a stop, just like leaving the clutch
    engaged too long on a manual tranny.

    Otherwise, I like "scromwell2's" recommendation with a fuel pressure guage.
    It would answer a range of questions.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jun 14, 2005
    #9
  10. Paul

    Eric Guest

    Honda has the lockup solenoid on top of the tranny. Its look like two
    cylinders and a filter underneath it. Take it out and has a deep clean.

    Good lick
     
    Eric, Jun 14, 2005
    #10
  11. Paul

    Eric Guest

    Honda has the lockup solenoid on top of the tranny. Its look like two
    cylinders and a filter underneath it. Take it out and has a deep clean.

    Good lick
     
    Eric, Jun 14, 2005
    #11
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