1989 Accord Outer CV Joint

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Guest, Aug 12, 2006.

  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I need to replace the right outer CV joint on my 89 Accord DX. I have a
    new part. The shop manual on the car states to not disassemble the
    outer CV joint from the driveshaft and does not offer any other
    details. I have replaced outer CV joints on other cars and they are
    usually held in with a cir-clip. The one for this car looks like it is
    just pressed in without a clip. Is there anything special that I have
    to do? It must come apart because you can buy replacement joints. Any
    help would be appreciated.
     
    Guest, Aug 12, 2006
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  2. Guest

    Matt Ion Guest

    I've always found it far more efficient to just replace the whole shaft. Takes
    about 10 minutes, start to finish, and if the outer joint is going, the inner
    joint is probably ready to be replaced as well.
     
    Matt Ion, Aug 12, 2006
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    Eric Guest

    The outer joint is held on by a clip. However, it's inside the joint and
    cannot be accessed when the joint is on the shaft.

    I have removed the joint using two techniques. The first one usually only
    works if the joint is very worn and is just flopping about on the end of the
    shaft. You must enlist a brave volunteer. This person will hold the shaft
    near the inner joint such that the shaft is pointing straight down and the
    outer joint is level and has had the boot and clips removed. You then take
    two 32 oz ball peen hammers, one in each hand, and swing them like an ape
    man such that they strike both sides of the outer joint at precisely the
    same time. If the joint doesn't come off after two or three blows, then it
    probably isn't going to come off via this technique. What happens is that
    the groove that holds the clip ring starts getting flared out preventing the
    outer joint from coming off and hitting it further will just make the joint
    more and more less likely to come off and further damages the splines.

    The second technique involves judicious use of an oxy-acetylene cutting
    torch. The outer race is fairly straight forward to cut off although it is
    a bit messy as the grease will catch on fire as it's dripping out of the
    joint. The inner race is more difficult since it's right next to the
    splined shaft. If the person wielding the cutting torch is highly skilled,
    then they can usually cut off the inner race without causing appreciable
    damage to the splines of the shaft directly underneath inner race.
    Sometimes, even with the greatest of care, it's still necessary to smooth
    out the splines with a flat file.

    A third possible technique, which I have never used, could be to use a
    special adapter for an air hammer which is designed to apply force equally
    to all sides of the outer joint's inner race. However, with this method
    you'll still likely run into the problems with the clip ring I mentioned in
    the first technique.

    In either of the above cases, the inner joint should be rebooted.
    Disassemble the joint, remove as much grease as possible without using
    solvent, keep it impeccably clean, regrease it and reassemble the unit being
    careful to keep the inner tripod in it's original orientation. Some techs
    have problems and get dirt in the joints while they're apart. This will
    lead to their premature failure so cleanliness is critical. The other
    important step is to equalize the air inside the boots of both joints such
    that they can move throughout their normal range of motion without putting
    tension on the boot. For example, if there isn't enough air in the inner
    boot then it will likely pop out of the transmission while you're driving
    down the road.

    Given the limitations with the above techniques for removing the outer
    joint, it's a whole lot easier to buy a remanufactured shaft with a warranty
    and just replace the whole thing. Honda sells a high quality rebuilt shaft
    and you can check the price and availability at
    http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com or http://www.slhonda.com.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Aug 13, 2006
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    Elle Guest

    I happened to check this a few weeks ago for a school
    assignment. Majestic (site one above) wants about $130 +
    shipping/handling for the remanned OEM shaft. Not sure what
    the warranty is. One has to ship Majestic the core to get
    the price above.

    Napa and Autozone want about $70, which also already takes
    into account submission of the core. Both provide a lifetime
    warranty.

    Make sure you get the exact same diameter, length and spline
    count from Napa and Autozone.

    A literature review on this subject indicates that most
    shops now just replace the halfshaft. It's way cheaper both
    parts wise and labor time wise.

    Hopefully returning the part the OP purchased is still an
    option.
     
    Elle, Aug 13, 2006
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    Burt Guest

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    Personally, I would go for the Abrasive Cut-Off Saw. This gives better
    control and minimize overheating, not to mention cost and safety.
     
    Burt, Aug 17, 2006
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  6. Perhaps a cut-off saw with the application of a cold chisel when the cut
    gets near the axle?

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Aug 17, 2006
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