05 Accord, engine flutters and other various problems

Discussion in 'Accord' started by elmo, Apr 17, 2005.

  1. elmo

    elmo Guest

    Hi, got a 05 accord w/ 4000 miles on it (4 cylinder engine), I've recently
    noticed that after the engine has warmed up and I'm idling in DRIVE, I can
    feel slight vibration from the steering wheel and a slight 'fluttering'
    sound from the engine, when I put the gear in neutral or park the fluttering
    sound seems to go away. I also hear those 'whining' sound which increases
    in pitch as accelerate from a dead stop, it You guys got any idea what this
    could be? I dont wanna take it to the dealer and have him say "I cant hear
    anything" or "this is normal".



    I can assure you these problems did not exist before.



    I'm very disappointed with this car, I thought I wouldn't have problems like
    these if I bought a Honda, another annoying problems:



    1) Paint peeling off back bumper (will the dealer replace it or jus paint
    it?)

    2) when wind shield wipers are engaged, I can feel the pulse of them working
    when i have my foot on the brake pedal

    3) air leak from the passenger side door while doing 65+mph

    4)creaking sound from un even surfaces from the drivers side dash near the
    tweater
     
    elmo, Apr 17, 2005
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  2. elmo

    Jason Guest

    Hello,
    I suggest that you take it to the service department and ask to speak to
    the manager of the service department. Tell him or her everything you
    stated below. Make sure that all of these problems are taken care of while
    the vehicle is still under warranty. Does anyone in this newsgroup know
    whether or not this vehicle could be covered by the lemon law? If so,
    please post.
    Jason
     
    Jason, Apr 18, 2005
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  3. elmo

    Dave Kelsen Guest

    I suspect that it is normal. You should decide what lie you want the
    dealer to tell you if it is...

    There is no excuse for a problem with the paint on a car this new; but
    what is it you think can be done about the paint other than replacing it
    (the paint)? For what it's worth, if there was a problem with a bumper,
    and the bumper was replaced, it would have to be painted; they come
    unpainted.

    I would ask about this; I can't say if I've noticed such a thing in my
    '03 Accord or not.

    This is a problem, and the dealer should be able and willing to fix it.

    This is s problem, but they may not be able to fix it; I've seen some of
    these sort prove unfindable. They certainly should make an effort.

    RFT!!!
    Dave Kelsen
     
    Dave Kelsen, Apr 18, 2005
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  4. elmo

    Dave Kelsen Guest

    First, so-called 'Lemon laws' are enacted by state legislatures; they
    vary from state to state - some states do not have any laws that would
    fall into this category with respect to automobiles. In order to
    determine applicability, you would need to know the state that the OP
    purchased the vehicle in.

    Second, *most* automobile lemon laws refer to an avenue for returning a
    vehicle within a specific time frame when the dealer has been unable (or
    unwilling, in some cases) to satisfactorily address a specific problem
    after several (generally three or more) attempts to fix that problem.

    Unless there is more to the story than has been given, the law of *most*
    states would not apply to this vehicle.

    RFT!!!
    Dave Kelsen
     
    Dave Kelsen, Apr 18, 2005
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  5. elmo

    Jeff Foster Guest

    With problems 1, 3, and 4, it sounds like the car amy have been in a
    collision and was repaired poorly. How much do you know about the history
    of the car?

    You don't state whether you bought the car from a dealer or an individual.
    I would suspect that either one was not entirely forthcoming about the
    history of the car. Just because a dealer sold it (if you bought from a
    dealer) doesn't mean that they will be any more honest with you than anyone
    else. I once bought a 1999 Pontiac Firebird that I suspected numerous times
    of having been in an accident. I had no way to prove it. The dealer had a
    body shop on site, so if someone had wrecked it on a test drive, the dealer
    could have repaired it without anyone ever recording the damage.

    As for the problem of the steering wheel vibration, turn your air
    conditioner off. The problem should go away. Pretty much, all Honda's have
    that steering wheel vibration when the A/C is turned on. The A/C compressor
    places an additional strain on the engine that is noticable at idle and
    causes that vibration. There is nothing wrong with it.

    If you turn off the A/C and the steering wheel is still vibrating, then you
    do have a problem and should take it to a dealer for repair.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff Foster, Apr 18, 2005
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  6. "Jeff Foster" wrote
    My '04 4-cyl auto Accord does not vibrate when the a/c is engaged.
     
    Howard Lester, Apr 19, 2005
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  7. elmo

    hondaman Guest

    it does sound like you may have bought one that was in an accident and maybe
    the door and bumprer were replaced. if you got a real good deal on it, be
    happy and the air leak in the door can probably be fixed by a simple hinge
    adjustment. if it's supposed to be brand new i would be upset and demand a
    trade for a different one. all hondas have the rumbly steering wheel i
    think. the power steering they use seems more powerful than other cars and
    the trade off may be a slight vibration in your steering wheel. find out the
    history of your car and decide what you want to do. i bet its still a
    wonderful car and much better than the competition.


    jeff
     
    hondaman, Apr 19, 2005
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  8. elmo

    MJC Guest

    I have a 2004 Accord EX Coupe and there has been a creaking noise coming
    from the top left side of dash since day 1. There is also a loose feeling
    drivers seat that Honda refuses to repair under warranty.

    Welcome to Honda's declining quality.

    It is unlikely that the service department will find and fix the problem,
    You will have to turn up your radio to mask it.

    I also had a 98 accord 4cyl which you would feel engine vibration through
    the steering wheel. They consider this to be a normal Honda trait.
    Pretty much anything they don't feel like fixing will be dismissed as
    normal.

    Lemon laws do not apply to rattles, vibrations and annoyances. Only to
    mechanical troubles or prolonged loss of use.

    When I attempted to get my 2004 Accord loose drivers seat issue resolved by
    contacting a Honda Regional Rep. I was told that the seat works as it was
    engineered to.

    I then asked him if there was a reason that Honda engineers put that much
    play into the seat.
    His response again was " The seat works as it was engineered " and "Didn't
    you notice it was loose when you took the car for a test drive"

    Honda quality is definitely in decline.
     
    MJC, Apr 22, 2005
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  9. It sounds like you are having more trouble with the service department there
    brushing you off than you are having with the Honda build quality.

    So, if you test drive an identical model does the seat have the same
    problem?

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Apr 22, 2005
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  10. elmo

    MJC Guest

    Took my 2004 Accord to 2 dealerships. Each one said the seat movement was
    normal. Called Honda consumer relations and a representative called me back
    and said the seat performs as it was designed.

    I spoke to another 2004 Accord coupe owner I met in a parking lot and he has
    the same loose seat feel. Was also told by Honda service department that
    this is normal. Owner also once owned a prelude and didn't have a seat
    problem.

    If you read the business sections, Honda sales have fallen compared to other
    Japanese makes.
     
    MJC, Apr 23, 2005
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  11. elmo

    halo2 guy Guest

    Yes...our 2004 Accord LX has that annoying seat movement while driving. I
    keep thinking it isn't locked in place or something. After reading
    everything here though I will make no attempt at the dealer to repair it.
     
    halo2 guy, Apr 24, 2005
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