After much heartache I have decided to ditch my Civic ;o( I have had it from new only done 36k mileage yet have had 2 EGR Valves,and on Monday it is going in for another (2nd one) Turbo ! This is too much for a 4 year old car and because it is now out of its 3 years warranty it going to start costing me - NOT what I was expecting from a Honda. ;o( Shane because I really love the car. Jim UK